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How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College?
(04-04-2019, 03:06 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote:  

Except that's not the only part of my argument.  I want the states to have the final say in who leads them, not the aggregate individual voters of the entire nation.  You've focused your entire counterpoint on a small section of my argument for the EC.

This exchange began with me giving a counter argument to your assertion that "A pure popular vote POTUS election will see the vast majority of states completely ignored by candidates and if you can safely ignore an area and still et elected what incentive is there for you to address the problems being faces by the peoples of those areas?". You also pushed back against proportional allocation in that post.

If you made an argument based on the need to preserve the federalist system, it wasn't in the post I responded to nor was it in your subsequent responses.

Quote:Was this because they were "small" or because they were "safe", as in their vote was safely in the hands of one of the candidates?

It's because they're not swing states nor are they allocated proportionally. Reason aside, they are absolutely ignored in a winner take all EC system. Considering that you believe that the popular vote is a bad idea because of this identical scenario, at the very least, this should have you rethinking your stance on proportional allocation, given the fact that it has led to small non swing states getting attention while maintaining the idea that the states are picking. 
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RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-04-2019, 05:36 PM

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