04-25-2019, 12:29 AM
(04-25-2019, 12:11 AM)hollodero Wrote: That's probably true (the perception I mean), and something I had to struggle with. I'm more or less constantly outraged. Not necessarily about every bit of news about him, but about the "old" stuff too. I would even make the case that spearheading the birther movement alone is reason to be outraged about this president. But as things stand, this episode is more or less irrelevant for my outrage, due to an excrutiating number of additional abhorrent behaviour of his. I do not see it as hyperbolic to put it that way.
And sure enough, from that perspective I see people reacting to the hysteria by almost reflexively siding against it. Be it because they are iconoclasts or because of a non-leftist ideology or whatever reason. Which sometimes seems inexplicable, gives the appearance of acceptance for Trump, or at least as if the critizism of the hysteria leads to throwing out the baby with the bathwater regarding Trump's actual deeds.
And I sure do agree that there also is hysteria, some quite cringeworthy even. But as I stated before (I think), that fact doesn't make Trump any better. I can just say that you and others often seem to give the impression as if it would. That's probably not fair at all to see it that way, but I find it hard to avoid that perspective at times.
Never said it makes Trump any better, but it sure as hell makes his detractors less palatable. Given a choice between eating vomit or feces I'll choose neither every day. This won't stop my from calling out vomit for claiming it tastes better though.
Quote:Has it flipped though? I still see conservatives that way, it's just that the leftists have become the same in their own ways. And yeah I hate that too.
To a degree, but I don't consistently read stories of right wing groups censoring, attempting to censor, protesting or mobing the shows of performers the way I see the far left doing. I literally can't recall the last time a far right mob prevented a speaker or act from performing. For the opposite I'd have zero trouble.
