The big problem is not Trump. It is "Trumpism"

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(04-30-2019, 08:19 PM)Dill Wrote: Well no, that's not "the truth." And once again, you illustrate the disjunct between evidence-based analysis and the easy rhetorical equivalence which dominates the Trump/post-truth era.

The candidates were in no way equal, either in terms of competence or moral rectitude. 

So those who voted for Trump either could not judge competence or morality, or they did not care because they wanted the tax cuts and SCOTUS picks, and/or hated Hillary.  So if you are defining "worse" by competent political judgement, they certainly are worse. They chose the p-grabber with all the bankruptcies and conspiracies theories over the former senator and secretary of state.

"The Left" voted for competence for the reasons everyone usually does--to put the most qualified person in the most important job in the country. The right voted for Trump to stop Hillary because Fox says the Clintons can't be trusted and get away with everything.  Plus did you see those Bill Clinton accusers Trump brought to the foreign policy debate--which his base says he won hands down and judged him ready for the presidency?  All the gravitas of a WWF match.

The "pedestal" I and others are sitting on right now is the one available to everyone who prizes competence and ethical conduct in a president.  That these standards have become a pedestal, and no longer the ground floor of presidential voting, is part of the problem.

The fact that you assert those that voted for Clinton "prize ethical conduct" pretty much says more than I ever could about the short-sightedness of the rest of your post.