Minnesota Rep. Hagedorn Falsely Claims No American Goes to Sleep Hungry

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(05-02-2019, 11:05 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: This is why you should use the news source that breaks the story rather than one that is reporting on that news source.

From the Globe:




You're arguing at this point that his context is irrelevant because you are choosing the new context now. He wasn't speaking to people who go to bed hungry. He was saying that Americans do not worry whether or not they can find food because our nation has available grocery stores full of fresh food. You example is flawed because he's not arguing that people can afford food. He's making the argument that the US food producers can adequately meet the needs of our population without relying on foreign food producers. A more accurate example would be saying "Americans have access to car dealerships, no one wonders if they will be able to find one. We don't need more foreign car companies selling here". 

If you want to argue that he's wrong, you'd likely be countering his comments by referencing food deserts. The article you posted actually does that. Many places, including Minnesota, struggle with inadequate access to stores that carry fresh food that is healthy. 

So, in the end I was right:  He was wrong.  

His "idea" that there is plenty of food grown here so people don't have to worry about finding it...is wrong.

Food desserts was mentioned in the article...so I didn't need to bring it up.  He was wrong.

To go back to the car example he would be saying "No one worries if they can have a car because we have lots of cars."  I said:

Quote:that doesn't mean everyone can afford a car or no one worries about their car breaking down or how they will get to work or the store

i.e. "no one worries if they can have a car".

Once again, this is a real problem in the US.  And his statement was wrong and ignorant of the facts. People DO worry if they can feed their family. And because of that people DO go to bed hungry.

So if the headline wasn't "what he said" and the article said he was wrong for a different reason...he was still wrong.

If people want to say "he didn't say that" that's fine. But the two things are intertwined in the real world.