06-04-2019, 01:04 PM
(06-04-2019, 12:26 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Trump is praying they impeach him, it would almost cinch his second term on its own. There's a reason a canny operator like Pelosi is heavily resisting it.
I'm going to have to completely disagree here. Name a country with a long history of democratic government that eventually slid into fascism, or any other form of autocracy. The Framers sank the foundations deep on our form of government.
I have to agree with SSF on both points here.
1. A failed impeachment would make Trump giddy, and the Senates will not remove him.
2. While we need to be wary of guys like Trump we have to remember that our country has survived Presidents suspending Habeas Corpus (Lincoln); attempting to expand the Supreme Court to pack it with supporters of the President (FDR); and forcing two Attorney Generals to resign before getting one to fire the special prosecutor appointed to investigate him (Nixon). Trump may bluster, but he has not gone as far as any of these previous Presidents.
As for the country as a whole things may seem bad now but here is a little perspective. This country lost its shit when one person died in Charlottesville in '17, but in 1992 fifty-three people were killed in the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict. The death tolls of the race riots in the 60's are staggering (Detroit 43, Watts 34, Newark 26, Chicago 11). And then there were the students gunned down protesting the Vietnam war. In just three school shootings (Kent State, South Carolina State, Jackson State) police/national guard shot 52 students killing 9 (although apparently only the 4 white ones at Kent state really mattered)
