Carson: Prez shouldn't be Muslim; Muslim Congressmen might be ok...

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(09-24-2015, 11:38 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I always laugh when I hear or read a conservative Christian repeat this myth.  I think they believe if they repeat it often enough it might actually make it true.

Jamestown is the oldest English settlement in North America.  It was founded by entrepreneurs looking to get rich.  The Pilgrims looking for freedom from religious persecution came later.  Who was persecuting the Pilgrims?  Other Christians.  As soon as there was more than one religious group in the New World they quickly began persecuting each other all over again.  You would lose your shit if you ran into a Pilgrim.  For one, they believed in predestination and nothing you did or didn't do during your Earthly life affected what happened to your soul in the afterlife because God had predetermined your fate before creation itself.  Accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior didn't save you if you were predestined for Hell.  They didn't celebrate Christmas or Easter (as man made holidays) so modern day Christians were be pissed off at their aversion to "Merry Christmas."  (They have a good point because Jesus Christ wasn't born on December 25th.)  Crosses were idolatry.  I believe formal, scripted prayer was a sin.

This country was founded upon the principles of natural law and natural rights over the king's law.  Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are Age of Enlightenment things, not a Christian things.  (Hell, the Church still won't admit burning Giordano Bruno at the stake was a mistake.) The American Revolution was prompted by unfair taxation withou representation, not religious persecution.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-islam-doctrines-muslim-president

Quote:CNN "State of the Union" host Jake Tapper grilled Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson on his comments about Muslims in an interview that aired Sunday until his campaign manager off-screen ended the interview.

Carson, a retired neurosurgeon, said last week, "I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation." The comment drew criticism from both Republicans and Democrats.

On Sunday, Tapper asked Carson about his comments.

"I would have problems with somebody who embraced all the doctrines associated with Islam," Carson said. "If they are not willing to reject Sharia and all the portions of it that are talked about in the Quran — if they are not willing to reject that, and subject that to American values and the Constitution, then of course, I would."

Tapper and Carson spent several minutes of back and forth.

"You're assuming that Muslim Americans put their religion ahead of the country," Tapper said to Carson.

"I'm assuming that if you accept all the tenets of Islam that you would have a very difficult time abiding under the Constitution of the United States," Carson replied.

The conversation ended when a voice off-camera, which CNN identified as Carson's campaign manager, Armstrong Williams said, "This interview is over."

Watch the full interview from CNN:

That's a very solid answer.  The follow up should have been about people who work for the government putting their Christian faith and Bible teachings ahead of the constitution.

Instead the manager bail him out.