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[Dill]

(06-25-2019, 02:41 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I don't understand why she waited so long, why didn't she join the multitude of other women that came forward already?

Now it's fishy cause of the timing of her book Release Date: July 2, 2019. And Trumps announcement that he is indeed running again. Yes he filed way back, but it wasn't a certain thing back then when he filed that he would indeed run again.

Whether it's true or not, she did herself no favors in the credibility department.

OtherMike, speaking man-to-man let's break this down systematically.

1. Mental health professionals tell us that it is very common for women to cover up their own rape out of shame and fear.  Just as it is common for rapists to counter-attack, going after the victims credibility and mental state.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/201711/why-dont-victims-sexual-harassment-come-forward-sooner.      https://ocrsm.umd.edu/files/Why-Is-Sexual-Assault-Under-Reported.pdf

As she herself now says, Carroll does not advise other women to come forward. The social penalty is very great because so many still join the alleged rapist in attacking the victim. One goal of the #metoo movement was to break down these barriers. That is why we have seen scores of women come forward years after the fact to make their case against Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein, not to mention Biden's shoulder massages. Feminists tell us that in 2019, incredibly, we as a society still have a long ways to go, as men (and some women) --especially men in power--still tend to blame the victim, adding to the pressure on women not to come forward.

2.  Trump's very public filing for candidacy in 2017, and his constant campaign rallies since, have hardly rendered it "uncertain" whether he would run again.  He has, for example, almost daily discussed polls this year and discussed how many states in which he is "leading."

3. Carroll did not write her book on July 1.  Her manuscript was with the publisher for almost a year, and publication date was prepared long before Trump's announcement.  Do you think the publisher rushed publication because of Trump's announcement? Why not wait until next year's convention when he formally accepts re-nomination?

4. Finally, if you want to think carefully, skeptically, ask yourself this--what is the likelihood that a guy who already has 21 PUBLIC allegations of sexual assault, not to mention expensive dalliances with porn stars and playboy bunnies kept from his family, a guy who swore that he just can't keep from kissing women and "they let you" grab P if you are a celebrity, actually did it?  America's #1 liar says he didn't and accuses a victim, with a reputation for credibility, of lying. And she was "not his type"--as if that clinches it. Everyone should get a fair hearing. It is certainly possible some of the accusations against Trump is baseless. But surely Trump's own history, just the admitted parts, did him no favors in the credibility department.

In contrast, Obama has done himself many favors in the credibility department. If some woman came forward accusing Obama of rape, I would be more skeptical of the accuser, closely scrutinize the charges.  But if Obama called the accuser mentally unstable and "too ugly," then even Obama would lose credibility in this case, despite his previous sterling record.  Because that is how rapists typically, cavalierly respond to their victim's accusations.

Just keeping this in context, the far more serious problem is why, given what was already known of Trump before the election, so many dismissed concerns about his character, honesty and competence and elected him anyway.