07-16-2019, 06:26 PM
(07-16-2019, 05:37 PM)Dill Wrote: Partially disagree with you here.
1. Identifying racist behavior and statements in political actors and news events ought to be possible on a politics message board as this purports to be. I.e., "racism," whether it exists or does not, ought to be discussable.
I completely agree.
Quote:But I agree it is rather different when one starts calling fellow posters "racist."
Only if they aren't actually engaging in racist behavior.
Quote:2. Still, I would say even that is not necessarily a personal attack if there is some fit between a poster's statement and at least an ostensible definition of racism--and the poster/accuser can explain the fit and defend the definition. That would also mean, however, explaining/defending criteria of racism, going well beyond mere accusation.
Also agreed.
Quote:3. Where people won't or maybe can't manage definitions, but continue to throw around the term "racism," then I agree that amounts to no more than personal attack. The usual pattern is, a poster on the MB identifies racist behavior/statements in someone in the news, then is in turn called "racist" by someone else on the MB in a (merely rhetorical) reversal of charges, followed by insistence that the poster talking about someone off the MB is now a "hypocrite" or "the real racist." Because he said "race" or some such.
Perhaps. If only we had specific examples of someone making a negative statement about an entire ethnicity and gender. Or maybe someone posting a picture full of negative racist stereotypes? I'm sure you'd agree if a poster was engaged in this type of behavior then labeling their behavior as racist, much like Tucker Carlson's, would be entirely appropriate. Right?
Quote:Perhaps the critique of people in the news makes people on the MB who hold similar values/beliefs/politics feel personally attacked, so they attack the attacker? Since race issues and, yes, racism continue to be a driver of current US politics, and since most of those identifying the "real racists" don't truck much in definition or research, the phenomenon is likely to continue if people keep posting articles reporting on race issues. LOL So it will be your own fault, Dino, if in the future you post a Trump/MAGA outrage, link it to the R-word and some one "calls you out."
Maybe. Or perhaps people actually engaged in racist behavior, specific examples of which were called out as they occurred, and said people refuse to acknowledge their culpability, instead trying to deflect by pontificating about how the other side is the real problem?
What do you, the viewers at home think?
