07-17-2019, 11:05 AM
(07-16-2019, 09:36 PM)Dill Wrote: LOL I get it. No one's going to stop you from "calling out racism." My concern is to get you to demonstrate what you are calling out. It does make me "uncomfortable" when you go around calling other MB members racist but can't be troubled to account for your special sight.
Examples have been given. You're seriously a broken record on endless repeat
Quote:My point about comments added to a picture, or not, was to indicate how context is an important feature of interpretation. Posting a picture of white people is not . . . wait for it . . . inherently racist. I didn't make up the term "reverse racism," which I agree doesn't exist. It does refer to a kind of behavior which does exist, though, and has been studied, measured and mapped for for several decades now. And I see no problem with using a poster's past history to decode a present post. Otherwise how would people recognize my parodies for parodies. But you and I see a very different "history" in Dino's past posts for example, one which leads you to egregiously misread them (example below).
Posting a picture using ugly, racial stereotypes is racist. I wonder if you'd feel the same if someone posted a picture of a muslim family with a 13 year old child bride in a burka, a son with a suicide vest on, the severed head of a journalist on the table and a Yazidi sex slave locked in a cage in the corner? Somehow I think your response would be different. Or would such a picture be recognized as "parody"?
Quote:There would be a "special category" that only applies when such behavior is directed at white people in a country where white people have traditionally dominated non-white people, in law and through institutions. Could be a special category for (non-white) Japanese in Japan, where a transplanted racial criteria have been operative in policy since the Meiji restoration. You've not looked into this, read any definitions, research and yet your heels are all dug in?
Nope. You're either against racism or you're not. There is no special category for anyone. You're an excellent example of why racism will continue to be a problem in this country. Their are racists who actually believe other races are inferior and their are racists who believe others deserve ill treatment due to historical wrongs. You land firmly in the latter camp and it's honestly quite sad.
Quote:Making derogatory comments or "mocking and treating others as lesser" is bad when targeted at race. But you don't mind denigrating or mocking or otherwise treating as "lesser" the people on this MB when they disagree with you?
Not in the slightest. "Targeting" an individual for who they are as a person is fine.
Quote:This leads us to a problem with your "exceedingly simple set of rules":
The example of Dino's gif isn't exceedingly simple. You call him a "racist" for no good reason that I can see. He posts a gif mocking white people who complain they are persecuted as a race by those cruel others--i.e., who complain about reverse racism. That is not mocking "the white race" or treating any race as lesser or whatever. Nor is there a "racial stereotype" involved. It is just a cartoon picture mocking a subset of whiners who define themselves as racial victims in a country where they never have been, and at at time when many white Americans believe they are anyway.
Dino's gif wasn't what started it. What started it was his racist statement about white men. The gif is merely a later example. Ohh wait, he was engaging in "parody" huh?
Quote:So NOT racism. In fact the opposite.
According to you. As I find your logic in this area to be fatally flawed I utterly repudiate your assertion.
Quote:And so you went wrong applying your exceeding simple set of rules to Dino's gif to produce an example of racism. "White" plus "race" plus Dino does not automatically equate to racism.
You went wrong when you decided to ignore racist behavior because you believe it somehow rights historical wrongs. Like I said, I actually feel a bit bad for you.
