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The Art of Listening
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(07-30-2019, 04:05 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: 3) If they had been offered a better choice than Hillary, they would have voted for that person.
3) They felt they were not being 'heard' by the Democrat Party. With this in mind, Trump is sort of a "taste-of-you-own-medicine" in their minds (Democrats don't listen to them = Trump doesn't listen to Democrats).
While I feel my friends were sincere about all of these points, I feel the fourth point had a particular resonance among them based upon how much active listening I had to do to reach that information. It was also a point that was hard for them to articulate (and a lot of these people are college educated). What this revolves around is a fear of being persecuted (like being called a racist, or a chauvanist, etc.) in public places for expressing certain thoughts or ideas.

(07-30-2019, 09:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: The people who voted for Trump because they didn't feel "heard" what are we do to do?  Listen to them say they wanted a different candidate?  We know that.  Now what? 

1. I am suspicious when I hear Hillary appeared "worse" than Trump. Seriously, what are the criteria for determining better or worse?

2.  And I am suspicious of the claim people were not "heard" by the Democratic party. The party tacked towards the center to keep them in the '90s. Then those people complain about the results and vote for the party of outsourcing and tax cuts for the rich?

But the guy who wanted a Muslim ban and the wall was listening to them?

3. What sort of "thoughts or ideas" tend to elicit charges of racism or chauvinism, and "persecution"? Could these be what the Democratic party was not listening to?

1. and 2. suggest to me that while we are listening to Trump voters, they are listening to Rush and Fox and Drudge and World Net Daily.

I say this while granting that the points I am making here are absolute conversation killers with the people in question, likely to be perceived as more evidence of the elitism Fox warns them of everyday.
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The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-29-2019, 07:45 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-29-2019, 09:23 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-29-2019, 09:53 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-29-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-29-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-29-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-29-2019, 02:46 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-29-2019, 03:22 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 07-29-2019, 04:48 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-29-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 07-29-2019, 05:24 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-29-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-30-2019, 12:02 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-30-2019, 04:05 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-30-2019, 09:43 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-30-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-30-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-30-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-31-2019, 12:06 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-31-2019, 12:57 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-31-2019, 01:00 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-31-2019, 06:29 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 08-01-2019, 09:42 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 08-01-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 08-01-2019, 02:50 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 08-01-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 07-30-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-30-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - GMDino - 07-30-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-30-2019, 08:21 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 07-31-2019, 12:19 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-31-2019, 01:11 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 07-31-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-31-2019, 07:26 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 08-02-2019, 04:09 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 08-02-2019, 02:11 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 07-30-2019, 02:03 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - Dill - 07-29-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - hollodero - 07-29-2019, 11:13 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - hollodero - 07-29-2019, 12:01 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Belsnickel - 07-29-2019, 11:51 AM
RE: The Art of Listening - bfine32 - 07-29-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Bengalzona - 07-31-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: The Art of Listening - Belsnickel - 08-01-2019, 04:15 PM
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