Israel Bans Omar/Tlaib

[Dill]

(08-19-2019, 03:14 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Sorry, not buying an equation between drawing Muhammed and mocking the industrial scale murder of millions.  You're attempting to mitigate this, hence the accusation of being an apologist.  There isn't a neutral explanation or excuse for this.

In this case this is appropriate.  There isn't a "neutral ground" for mocking the industrial scale murder of millions.  Your comparison is offensive on its face.

Jeezus. Not even the Iranians were arguing for "neutral ground" for mocking the murder of millions. My "neutrality" here would be in explaining the rationale of each paper; the problem is with your position if such neutrality threatens to "mitigate" it. 

You cannot see this because your constant pre-judgment collapses neutrality from the get go. Hence the wild inferences about neutral ground for mocking murder.  If I am not ALREADY condemning BEFORE reading and understanding, as you do, then I am an "apologist."

(08-19-2019, 03:14 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Quote: Also, "Anti-Semitic tropes" are not the criterion here.

Do you have a link to any national newspaper publishing cartoons joking about the Holocaust? That would shut these Iranians up.

Except mocking the murder of millions isn't remotely comparable to drawing a picture of a dude.  You're attempting to mitigate that which should be condemned without exception.

Nothing is "mitigated" by suggesting that you cannot find cartoons about the Holocaust in US national papers.  Of course "the West" thinks its standards of censorship are ok.The stated goal of the Iranian editors was to foreground what appears to them a journalistic double standard, and to frame calls like yours to "condemn that which should be condemned without exception" as simply the mirror-image of their view of cartoons insulting Mohammad. 

If the response is "it isn't the same because it isn't the same," that will play exactly as they want to audiences outside the US, and not only in the Middle East.