Trump's ethanol waivers are sparking rebellion in farm country

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(08-28-2019, 01:04 AM)Benton Wrote: The trade war issues are complex and deal with things have to be faced eventually.

From tax policies that promote companies going out of the country to nobody holding China accountable for outright IP theft and being lax on piracy to the tariff issue.

Part of the problem with tariffs are also part of the problem resulting in our wage stagnation. We've got a handful of industries with lots of breaks and some with 2019 prices... while others are expected to stay low through price controls, subsidies or market pressure. If the price of a t-shirt, gallon of milk and your kids school supplies kept pace with the auto industry, electric companies and cell phones, your kid would be going to school naked, hungry and without anything to write on. But to keep cheap stuff coming, the US (and other countries) haven't really interfered with China's illegal practices, or with their flooding markets with cheap stuff.

At some point, we've got to deal with them. I'm not really up enough on what the best way to do that is, but I'm glad we're doing something.

"something" in this case is bad for Americans.  That doesn't mean I support Chiana dn want them to "win" this "easy to win trade war".  It means that DJT made another bad policy decision and then doubled down when it didn't work.

(08-28-2019, 08:26 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The biggest issue with this trade war is that Trump decided to do this unilaterally. There are other countries that have been looking for the US to lead them in an effort that is aimed at taking down China. Instead, they got a United States that attacked China and its allies in economic ways. Instead of working collaboratively against China, the Trump administration has alienated almost all of the traditional allies we have in these sorts of things, which means that we take the brunt of the punishment, we being the American people.

Two economic behemoths in a trade war results in hefty blows to each other; two heavyweights in the ring. What should have happened would have been like a tag team match where we had at least five or six other partners in this helping to take China down. Trump removed the US from the leadership role in the international community, and then decided to go at it alone. It was a bad policy decision and one the farmers in the midwest are paying for.

Exactly.  But DJT know "more" about everything than everyone.  And in some corners if you don't support his every decision you are with the enemy.  Part of the polarization of this country comes from line of thinking too.

As to the China problem: I agree that a group effort would have been better.  But also having a leader that has the ability to stay on task and worry more about the goal than how he looks and who likes him.  His sole concern is money.  Period.  He thinks the country is one of his businesses and all he cares about is making money...for him.  Because he has done nothing about the deficit and nothing to cut spending.  This is why so many of his ventures went into bankruptcy:  He doesn't know how to MAKE money, he knows how to spend someone ELSE's money until there isn't any left.  Having him, as you say, unilaterally making these trade moves is asinine.  And again that doesn't mean I do not think China is taking advantage of our trade or that I want China to beat the US.  It means I have a problem with Trump and his minions telling us we have to deal with the pain until he wins over this.  As I've said before (crossing the streams here) we don't dare ask businesses of citizens to deal with the "pain" of going at climate change because it will cost money! LOL!

But to the OP if Trump wants Socialism for the american farmer then good for him.  That will be a good look going into the 2020 elections.