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(08-30-2019, 02:22 PM)Whatever Wrote: Core sucks at contested catches, while Tate excels at them.  This creates the illusion that Tate is more reliable.  However, Core can get seperation and Tate can't, so people tend to forget the routine grabs Core makes and focus on Tate's highlight reel catches.  

Yeah, let's talk about illusion. 

The illusion of separation being that important and how Core and Malone can do it and Tate can't. I just rewatched the first 2 PS games because i wanted to see how much Tate, Core and Malone were targeted, how many catches they had and what the coverage was like. I used 3 criteria; contested (where the defender is right on/touching the receiver), less arm length (where the defender is away from the receiver but within one arm length) and more arm length (where the defender is more than an arm length away). 

Here's how it breaks down. 
Core- 5 targets, 4 rec: contested 2 (1 incomplete), less arm length 1, more arm length 2

Malone- 7 targets, 3 rec: contested 2 (1 incomplete), less arm length 1, more arm length 1
(1 wide open underthrow, 1 contested underthrow, 1 drop on pass behind him)

Tate- 8 targets, 7 rec: contested 4 (1 incomplete), less arm length 1, more arm length 3

So, tell me some more about how Malone and Core are out there running out of their shoes and separating from defenders while Tate has to wrestle away catches like a wolf wrestling away a chunk of water buffalo from a bear.   Mellow





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