Gun owner poll

[*michaelsean*]

(10-04-2019, 10:41 AM)GMDino Wrote: I dunno how many they killed but they must have been "successful" too since they died, or something.

Again if the goal is to win or die trying then dying is successful I guess.  I'd say that's more of a personal success than one for the team though.  Especially since the Spartans didn't stop the Greeks like they wanted to.  They did delay them...but it doesn't seem that was the plan.

Edit to add I only responded to this:

quote='Sociopathicsteelerfan' pid='771780' dateline='1570153368']

Quote:No, it didn't.  He accomplished his goal and delayed the Persians long enough for the successful naval action that prompted the Persian's retreat.  I suppose if you think dying to prevent the enslavement of your countrymen a failure then sure, he failed.  

Because that was not his goal according to the link I shared.

No one said he wasn't brave.  (No was said he was either to be fair.) What was said was he was not a failure for being killed during the mission.  My point was the mission was a failure based on what I shared.  I mean maybe the mission changed when everyone else ran off?  Sure then he sacrificed to delay the inevitable and the Spartans lost a lot of good fighters and a leader for nothing other than a "delay".


I think we've gotten WAY off topic though about invading the homes of gun owners because they have guns.   

You must have never been in on a firearms discussion before then.  They always end up discussing the Battle of Thermopylae.