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Glenn and Green won't play in London, Dennard Doubtful
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(10-25-2019, 03:11 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I don't think the Bengals are negotiating shit.  At this point, one of two things is happening:

1. Glenn is legitimately injured and is telling the truth.  If that is the case, assistant coaches (looking at you, Jim Turner) shouldn't give him shit about being injured or accuse him of malingering to the point he demands a trade because most players would understandably be upset.

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2. Glenn is malingering as many here suspect based upon incomplete reports in the media.  

As a former military and current civilian PA, I've dealt with malingering or suspected malingering in the Army and with civilian Worker's Comp injuries.  As a provider, if you suspect malingering you want to force a resolution as quickly as possible to rule out organic causes or reach the maximum medical improvement possible.  For Glenn that would involve multiple neurologist all agreeing he doesn't have a concussion.  I just don't see how that is possible.  Most patients with a concussion have a normal neurological exam that doesn't require imaging to rule out a more serious injury, but that doesn't mean they don't have a concussion.  While the NFL does neurocognitive testing that the Army and most employers don't do, the neurocognitive testing could return to baseline and Glenn could continue to complain of headaches, dizziness, nausea, depression, or decreased concentration which would prevent a neurologist from clearing him and those symptoms can't be proven or disproven definitively.  They won't be able to prove he is malingering with a concussion.  Sometimes that's just going to happen despite their best attempts otherwise.  (Normal neurocognitive testing also wouldn't rule out the possibility of conversion disorder mimicking the symptoms of a concussion without a physiologic or anatomical abnormality which also doesn't point to malingering, either.)

https://centralptonline.com/files/concussion/12Feb27.pdf



While that source is a few years old, it reinforces the information I have relayed.  In short, if Glenn continues to complain of concussion symptoms he can't be cleared through the protocol even if his neurocognitive testing has returned to baseline.

So what do the Bengals do?  If they believe him, then they don't treat him any differently than any other injured player.  Like AJ Green, for example.

If they don't believe him, then they need to get rid of him as quickly as possible most likely with an injury settlement.  I'll use PTSD in the military as an example since it is frequently abused by service members who want to get out of the military.  If a service members legitimately has PTSD which prevents the individual from doing their job you medically separate them and get someone who can do the job.  If a service member reads enough about PTSD to fake it well enough to get diagnosed with PTSD to the point they can't do their job (and it can't be proven they're malingering) you medically separate them and get someone who can do the job.  Why?  Because why would you want to hold on to someone who is compromising the team's ability to do their job by faking a medical condition?  

At 0-7 holding onto Glenn isn't about winning, it's about money.  If  they think he is malingering.

Taking the medical out of it, i think he's just being a ***** and not wanting to ever have to step on the field for the Bengals again and he has the perfect opportunity to make that happen, with the inability to definitively say he's healthy. 





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RE: Glenn and Green won't play in London, Dennard Doubtful - rfaulk34 - 10-25-2019, 03:22 PM

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