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How many new starters do we need to become good?
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(10-28-2019, 12:45 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I'll try to do this scientifically. We're halfway through the year. I'll use PFF ratings...and say that anyone below a 60 needs replaced.

But, you also need high-end talent. Basically most of our roster is in the mid-60's or below with the exception of maybe 6-7 players. We have no guys on offense or defense in the 80's that start.

Offense:

TE: (Assuming no Eifert next year who's hovering right around 60.) Sample - 53. Uzomah - 45.4.
G: Jordan - 32.9, Price 35.6. (Pretty near the point where it's time to call Price a bust and move on.)
RT: Bobby Hart 55.0

Note: John Jerry is right around 60. He's been fairly solid. Jonah will obviously replace him.

Honestly, people act like the entire line has been bad...but it really hasn't. There are only 3 starters rated below 60 on offense.

Which leads be to think that the issues are more playcalling/scheme than players.

Defense:
3rd CB: Webb - 57.1
S: Bates - 45.9
S: Williams - 52.0
LB: Pratt - 42.7
LB: Brown - 44.5
LB: Vigil - 50.4


So that's about 8-9 guys that play regularly that are playing extremely poor. Almost HALF of our starters.

Jonah/Glenn would replace Jerry who's actually been a decent Tackle.

Then, AJ Green would replace another WR...but the WR ratings aren't terrible. They're in the low 70's. So there's some upgrade there.

So you're saying that Jim Turner has done a better job than people have credited him for and that Sample wasn't as bad a pick as people make out as he's already outplaying Uzomah (and as a rookie can be expected to step up a level next year).... 

Surprised to see Pratt so low after everyone said he couldn't possibly be worse than Vigil or Brown. It seems like PFF says the Bengals were right with their draft grades as Sample > Pratt > Jordan. 
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RE: How many new starters do we need to become good? - TJHoushmandzadeh's Shiny Shoes - 10-28-2019, 03:05 PM

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