11-08-2019, 12:21 PM
(11-08-2019, 11:23 AM)jj22 Wrote: Really? When did Dalton have a run game or running attack better than Rudi/Perry? - In 2014. The Bengals rushed for over 2100 yards and 19 touchdowns. This is better than any single rushing attack that Palmer had.
What wide receiver trio was better than Ocho, Housh, Henry etc? - He hasn't. AJ, Marvin and Sanu are nothing to sneeze at, but Palmer had better receivers. However, Dalton has had better tight ends.
The Oline? When did he have a better center/RT/LT combo? - Specifically that combo, Dalton hasn't. Dalton has had a better LT, LG and RG combo, however. He has typically had below average centers and average right tackles.
When did he have a rookie OC from the arena league? - Brat was better than Gruden. He also had more to work with. Gruden took over a team full of rookie/young talent. By the third year that the core was together, Gruden put together a top 10 offense. The point still stands that Brat was better.
Defense. Let's talk Defense. - Dalton has had the better defenses and that is absolutely no question. Dalton has had three defenses in the top 10 with 2015 being #11. Palmer had one defense in the top 10, in 2009. Dalton has had defenses in the top 10 for sacks four times including #11 in 2017. Palmer had zero such defenses. Dalton has had four defenses in the top 10 in interceptions. Palmer had five defenses.
When did Dalton have probowl corners with 10+ interceptions? - Palmer had the better individual corners.
When has the DLine rotation been better than the Fanene/Rucker rotation that spearheaded those top 10 runs? - Pretty much throughout the entirety of Dalton's career. That is why Dalton has had better defenses and better pass-rushing defenses. Dalton has also had better rush defenses. Dalton had three top 10 rush defenses. Palmer had one.
Lb's. Do we really want to go there outside of Burfict? - Thomas Howard and AJ Hawk were fine linebackers to go along with Burfict. Palmer didn't have some stud LBing corp. He had Dhani Jones who was good, but Burfict was better than Dhani. Landon Johnson was a legitimately good backer. Palmer had the better corps but it's not like he was working with some all-decade crew. Dalton still had the better defenses.
The Palmer era had far more established talent and free agent signings. Indisputable. But if you choosing A then just say so. Be proud of it. Own it.
Dalton had 3 bad seasons in 9 years not including last year when they were on fire on offense and 5-3 before injuries hit.
You aren't going to find a 9 year vet with that record in free agency very often. And with only 3 other teams (maybe 4) with better runs in the league, you won't find many other fanbase turning their nose up to it either.
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