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(11-12-2019, 03:23 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Uhm, Trumps zero tolerance policy affects those who enter Illegally, we've covered that.

What's not covered is the fact that even IF they enter legally, there are rules already in place that CAN separate parents from children.


What you, the media and many others are implying is that your trying to tie the Trump ZP rule to those exceptions to the legal entry rules. When in fact, kids were being separated long before the Trump ZP rule.


https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/06/18/myth-vs-fact-dhs-zero-tolerance-policy


Myth
DHS has a policy to separate families at the border. 

Fact
DHS does not have a blanket policy of separating families at the border. However, DHS does have a responsibility to protect all minors in our custody. This means DHS will separate adults and minors under certain circumstances. These circumstances include:

1) when DHS is unable to determine the familial relationship,
2) when DHS determines that a child may be at risk with the parent or legal guardian, or
3) when the parent or legal guardian is referred for criminal prosecution. 

• Familial Relationship – If there is reason to question the claimed familial relationship between an adult and child, it is not appropriate to detain adults and children together.
• Human Trafficking and Smuggling – If there is reason to suspect the purported parent or legal guardian of human trafficking or smuggling, DHS detains the adult in an appropriate, secure detection facility, separate from the minor.  DHS continues to see instances and intelligence reports indicating minors are trafficked by unrelated adults, posing as a “family” in an effort to avoid detention.
• Safety Risk – If there is reason to suspect the purported parent or legal guardian poses a safety risk to the child (e.g. suspected child abuse), it is not appropriate to maintain the adult and child together.
• Criminal Prosecution – If an adult is referred for criminal prosecution, the adult will be transferred to U.S. Marshals Service custody and any children will be classified as an unaccompanied alien child and transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services custody.
  

In recent months, DHS has seen a staggering increase in the number of illegal aliens using children to pose as family units to gain entry into the United States. From October 2017 to February 2018, there was a 315 percent increase in the number of cases of adults with minors fraudulently posing as “family units” to gain entry.

Myth

DHS has never separated families for prosecutions before – this is a new policy in this Administration. 

Fact
Illegal border crossers, including family units, were referred for prosecutions, as appropriates, under the previous Administration. The average referral rate for amenable adults from FY10 – FY16 was 21 percent.

This has been presented numerous times; however, the Red Herring is easier to defend.