Ireland becomes first country to legalize gay marriage via pop vote

[Mike M (the other one)]

(05-28-2015, 06:48 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: 1. There could be any number of reasons for the decline in prevalence. Your interpretation of data doesn't take this into account and is overly simplistic.

2. Still a false equivalency. But you can just keep ignoring that since it seems to confuse you.

3. Onto the whole overly simplistic approach you take to these numbers. I'm sure it is no coincidence you chose those countries instead of looking at someplace like Russia, where the HIV prevalence increased and has stayed steady as well, or maybe Pakistan, or any number of other countries where SSM is not legal and the rates are steady or even growing. Picking and choosing countries for your argument like that shows an attempt to manipulate the data in a biased way. You're not taking into account public health initiatives that may have been implemented for instance. That's just the tip of the iceberg for the number of variables involved with this sort of thing and why your attempt to interpret the data in such an overly simplistic way is falling flat. You can't just compare country to country on a whim for any real sort of statistics example. The only value this has for this conversation is one country sprwad over the years, and the fact is that the prevalence did not significantly change after SSM was legalized.

So no, there is no support for your argument for anyone with even a modicum of understanding of statistics.

The criteria I used was developed countries, non-communist and large populations, so yes I didn't include Russia or China. I figured there might be some issues with the numbers from those countries.

1. sure, Ignore it again.
2. Still hung up on technicalities. It's ok if you want to play that game.
3. Sure and there could've public health initiatives done in the countries where SSM is legal too, but it's not showing much effect now is it? We can do this game all day long.

Don't know what's going on in Russia, but considering the numbers, they are all over the place, which going back to my criteria, I was probably correct in stating that numbers from that country would be messed up. Nice try to use their abnormal numbers as a means to dispute everything up to this point.

If you want to keep you heads buried in the sand about it, then that's fine. That's on you. I don't want that, I want it to stop spreading.

Currently the number one means of HIV/AIDS spreading is via MSM. I guess all of you just want to sit back and wait for it to become number 2 (the general population becomes infected) and then you can say see it's working.