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Chase Young or Joe Burrow ?
(12-06-2019, 01:40 AM)Whatever Wrote: The Bengals have the 4th most passing attempts in the league with 462.  They have 258 rushing attempts, not pass attempts.  They actually have a disproportionately low number of hits hits allowed for the amount of pass attempts.  

A "QB Killer" OL is one like Tennessee's.  They have allowed 49 sacks and 79 QB Hits on just 336 pass attempts.  The Bengals have 61 hits and 41 sacks on 462 attempts by comparison.  

You are correct on attempts on the phone I saw the rushing attempts not the passing attempts.

In terms of rounding out how bad our line is though the adjust sacks rate of 10.4% puts us at 31st in the league in terms of offensive line rankings. Our QB is still getting sacked, but you are correct not necessarily hit although FBO doesn't do QB hit adjustment, at a rate far above league average. An average rate for adjusted sack rate should be 6% and as I said we are 10.4%. The reason adjusting for sacks matters is it takes into account down and distance as well as opponents. Basically we get sacks far more than other teams even in good situations and against bad teams.

As for the guy who didn't want to hear the excuse "Andy Dalton's quick release" that matters...a lot. Dalton's average release is a whole tenth of a second faster then anyone else in the NFL and almost a quarter second faster then the 10th quickest release. You can be assured QB's that hang on to the ball longer will get at a much higher rate behind this line. To help put this in perspective there have only been 17 sacks in the NFL year that have occurred faster than Andy Dalton's release time, meaning there were only 17 instances a rusher got to the QB faster than Andy Dalton got the ball out on average. That is 17 out of 1005 total sacks in the NFL this season.

In comparison you mention the Titan's and how often they get hit, that would be because Ryan Tannehill's time to throw is 2.81 seconds and Marcus Mariota's was 2.84, both almost .4 seconds longer than Andy Dalton's 2.43. Release time does have an interesting correlation to sacks allowed. Of the top 10 release times only Fitzpatrick (bad O line) and Murray (Also bad O line) get sacked at a higher rate than Dalton.As you scroll down the list you start seeing a pretty strong link between good O lines, longer release times, and fewer sacks. Basically, even with Dalton getting the ball out faster than anyone else in the NFL he gets sacked at a pretty abysmal rate.

The point still stands our QB is going to be under duress often, and add in a rookie who likes to stand in the pocket until the last second like Burrow and he is going to take a lot of shots. I'm not saying it's the end all of drafting or not drafting a QB, but to say the narrative isn't true is debatable. The nice thing about stats is they are in the eye of the beholder but records aren't.
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