So, should he be removed?

[hollodero]

There's also this matter, after all.

To oversimplify matters for the poll at least, let's put aside all the different possible articles of impeachment like "bribery/abuse of power" or "obstruction" and make the question straight-forward. All things considered, should Trump be removed from office or not?


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As for my view, I say remove without delay. I figure it is warranted, after all it seems quite clear and proven to me that Trump ran a bribery scheme to falsely smear an US citizen and political opponent with extorted foreign investigation announcements, in that process toying around with 391 million dollars that were not his to toy around with for personal benefit, putting a strategic partner in actual lethal danger and endangering what is defined as national security. Which is as criminal a plan as it is a moronic one. But I don't know if your constitution acknowledges that term.

And sure, it is maybe something I just happily take if warranted - which I believe it is, I actually put trust in those professors - to get rid of Trump. Of course with the underlying motive that I find his reign actually quite dangerous for the western world. (Also I still think he's a Russian asset and moneylaunderer, but I get that this is quite unproven and hence not that impeachable - as of yet.)

I also would have wished Rosenstein all of luck if he ever were to follow through with his alleged plan to secretly tape Trump in order to gain some 25th amendment arguments. Yeah, that's probably not a true story and it would have been a controversial move to say the least, not quite that healing for the nation. It's just, if there's one thing even more mind-boggling than Trump's blatant lieing, his indecency or his unrestrained, unethical narcissism, it's his ignorance and idiocy. I stand to that 100%, don't even tempt me to expand. Rake the forest floors if you think that man is actually smart.
I mention this because I find it possible that Trump actually believes all that conspiracy nonsense, indeed considers his phone call perfect and that Giuliani just steered this witless twerp into that Ukraine mess, for whatever sinister reason this guy has. In which case Trump still should be impeached, adding excessive dumbness as an article. Which sadly is not a legal term either, probably.

And for all those "it's overturning a vote!" folks, you'd get Mike Pence, someone who also was on the ticket. And who liberals sure do not like. (I'd like him, for he's at least not a moron.)

Also, and I feel I need to stress that, I'm not sorry for being a bit annoyed lately. All those alternate narratives and disingenuous sidestories and fingerpointing at everything liberal at any turn possible and this constant "I proof that you're a hypocrite, no you're a hypocrite, no you, I win, hooray for my side!" partisan nonsense is bugging me. These are not the times (but sadly, they always are).