So, should he be removed?

[Dill]

(12-07-2019, 03:25 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: No he shouldn't be.

I don't want him to have that distinction. I'd rather he just voted out, preferably in as an embarrassing a landslide (at least popular vote) as possible. I'm sure that once he's in no position of relevance the GOP will distance themselves from him and act like he wasn't a real member of the party and he can just fade into the history books as an embarrassing blemish in US history. He'll tweet enough to remain in the spotlight as long as he can hold onto it, but eventually he'll croaks because of his overindulgence on Big Macs and he can just be a bad memory.

I agree that once out of office, GOP leaders will distance themselves from him to the degree he loses relevance. I don't think he'd lose it right away, though. Might take a year.

I am skeptical there will be an embarrassing landslide. The Trump base does not care about his violations or feel a twinge of embarrassment/regret for their support that I can discern. They really don't want democratic/constitutional accountability to apply to him, so all the legal arguments, precedents, and evidence aren't going to sway them. "If he is guilty, so what?!? Obama/Biden did it too!"

Meantime, there is real danger he will continue undoing US foreign policy and diplomatic credit abroad, and constitutional balance at home. He will continue to break things, continue the current constitutional crisis, and keep the Fox disinformation machine at the center of national politics--all that damage is not reparable.