So, should he be removed?

[Dill]

(12-07-2019, 05:24 AM)hollodero Wrote: And for all those "it's overturning a vote!" folks, you'd get Mike Pence, someone who also was on the ticket. And who liberals sure do not like. (I'd like him, for he's at least not a moron.)

Also, and I feel I need to stress that, I'm not sorry for being a bit annoyed lately. All those alternate narratives and disingenuous sidestories and fingerpointing at everything liberal at any turn possible and this constant "I proof that you're a hypocrite, no you're a hypocrite, no you, I win, hooray for my side!" partisan nonsense is bugging me. These are not the times (but sadly, they always are).

"Both sides" aren't doing it, are not simple mirror images. And as long as that's the case, it may still be possible to right the ship. Some comfort in that.

None of the GOP candidates--even Pence--would be nearly as bad as Trump. All of them knew how government worked and could have been counted on to understand and respect the need for continuity in foreign policy.  People who say "You'd get Pence" still don't get it.  Trump is a broken personality and scofflaw with no flying experience, who is in the pilot's seat of the airliner of state, firing co pilots and traffic controllers who don't give him advice he wants (he knows better!) and trying his best to keep what goes on in the cockpit a secret. Pence would not ignore the fuel gauge or fire a stewardess for being ugly.