So, should he be removed?

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(12-07-2019, 03:25 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: No he shouldn't be.

I don't want him to have that distinction. I'd rather he just voted out, preferably in as an embarrassing a landslide (at least popular vote) as possible.

But what if that does not happen?
I don't know the exact numbers, but his approval seemed to be around 40 in the beginning, and it is around 40 now. After all that went down.
"Surviving" impeachment will be just one more push - to convince folks that want to be convinced that he fell victim to a smear campaign, and for him to further act out.

(12-07-2019, 03:25 PM)CKwi88 Wrote: I'm sure that once he's in no position of relevance the GOP will distance themselves from him and act like he wasn't a real member of the party and he can just fade into the history books as an embarrassing blemish in US history.

That I also find hard to imagine. They all, all have chained themselves to him, through every scandal, every outrageous conduct, over years. I know politicians pivot and all that, but turning away after tolerating and defending everything Trump did would have no credibility for anyone. Especially after voting against impeachment.
And that I see as the problem. Letting him fall is no longer an option for all those Grahams.