Just asking. I don't know.

[Dill]

(12-11-2019, 09:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Can there be more than one problem?

As I've said it's white noise. Trump lied at a Rally (kinda) and we feel the compulsion to create a thread about it.

"The OP was attacked" is that different than being "called out"?

I know the story is trivial that's why I quoted the dude getting suspended. You know the story is trivial; that's why you quoted me.

The OP is saying folks are in cults. What reaction do you expect?

I don't "know" the story is trivial. 

Part of what concerns me about "trivial" lying is that the person doing it is president of the U.S. It is a sign that the person in charge has bad judgment in a job where the best judgment is required.

The other part that concerns me is that so many find his lying not especially concerning. "We all knew he was like that." It has become normal to the point that people who complain about the commander in chief lying seem the real problem to larger numbers of people.

So there can be more than one problem--1) the president lying constantly, spinning up conspiracy and hate in masses of voters, and 2) people finding that "trivial," against a background of normalizing equivocation, to the point it's ok for masses of voters NOT to care if their leader lies, but beyond the pale insulting if someone recognizes in that uncritical acceptance a symptom of cult behavior.

The compulsion here might be to figure out what has happened in the U.S. to invert a set of political standards/values which have obtained for over a century, since the Southern states were re-integrated in the Union.   Now if someone writes that Trump didn't know where Seoul was on the map of South Korea, and demanded that it be moved when told it was within range of NK artillery, that signals only "Trump hate," not dangerous incompetence. The messenger is always the problem.