12-23-2019, 11:15 PM
(12-23-2019, 02:28 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: That’s not what he said. He said there’s people here that think “Dalton is the sole reason we haven’t gone to the Super Bowl”
That’s total bs, Shake, and you know it. I know you (and most of the mods) like Andy but this Oswaldo guy is borderline trolling when every single one of his posts are antagonistic towards anyone criticizing Dalton.
LITERALLY NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON THINKS DALTON IS THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS TEAM. NOT A ONE.
Unless I just missed all the praise for Mike Brown, Marvin Lewis, Bobby Hart, Dre Kirkpatrick, John Ross, Paul Alexander, Zac Taylor, Ken Zampese, and all the rest of the forum whipping boys that this place bashes on a daily basis...
I know that's not exactly what he said. That's what I'm saying.
He may be going to a total extreme, but I kinda get where he's coming from (not to say I completely agree lockstep...again, he's going to an extreme).
I do think a lot of people believe Andy is far and away the main (not only) reason we're losing.
(12-23-2019, 10:21 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: And praise, that's the way it's always been and that's the way it will always be.
And I think most do understand the very long list of problems with this team from top to bottom. It's just that Dalton is the most visible target. I fully believe that had the right buttons been pushed AD could have had much more success here, same with CP9. But MB refuses to push those buttons and/or doesn't know how and refuses to let somebody who does run the show.
Put Dalton on the 88 Bengals with that Oline and we're winning some games. He could have been J. McMahon on the 85 Bears. He could win with the 19 niners, name a Patriots team ?
The problem comes in because we aren't ever going to build one of those type teams or have the coaching under MB ! And Dalton isn't a QB who can take a team on his back and rise above it.
Maybe before this year. I haven't seen a soul say Andy is playing well this year. Maybe they're praising his career in retrospect, knowing he's gone. That's the only praise I've seen. I'm with ya though, it's going to take a Peyton Manning clone to overcome MB...and even then, I'm not sure we have the culture to bring the best out of a young QB.
I'm still all aboard the Burrow train though. Just have to keep hoping, I guess.
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