Does Bernie Know Dems Need A Miracle?

[Dill]

(02-26-2020, 07:14 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: What made America great, even from the start, was people trying to work harder and produce new ideas and new things to get ahead in life.  That's the American dream.  Why would people have any motivation to better themselves and move forward if they won't see a reward and people who do nothing get just as much as people who try to improve their lives?
Europeans tend to think that they're less likely to control their own destiny, and that you can get ahead in life by working hard, which is, like I said, the American dream.   America is based on freedoms, not the government controlling everything.  Americans prioritize individual liberty, whereas European countries want more government control.  

If college were free, then what would be the benefits of working hard in high school to get into a good college and what would prevent students from just becoming professional students?  

The United States is also MUCH more unhealthy than Europe, making healthcare not as big of an expense.   

Jeezus. If high school were free, what would keep students from just becoming professional students?

The slight differences in health between the US and countries like Germany hardly explains why we spend twice as much per capital on health care, why treatments for the same diseases cost so much more here. In contrast to Europe (and Japan), in the US a mass of private businesses intervenes between doctor and patient harvesting profits. Get rid of that and we are Germany and Japan in costs and outcomes.

Do you understand that social mobility in all those "not-socialist" Bernie-model European countries with the free Education is greater than in the US. Maybe we need to start calling the "American dream" the "American perception."

The Data show the Europeans are more reality-oriented.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/02_economic_mobility_sawhill_ch3.pdf
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/02/14/americans-overestimate-social-mobility-in-their-country
https://www.epi.org/publication/usa-lags-peer-countries-mobility/


"Freedoms" and "less governmental control" in the US case only means MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL by corporations and less by the middle class and working class.

Corporations get away with it by scaring people about something called "socialism"--which most Americans know little about--so they vote their power away, ceding government to "freedoms" for the 1%.  No accident that disinformation about socialism correlates with disinformation about European health care.

PS The US was hardly "great from the start."  And where would France or Germany or Sweden or Japan be right now if they had the scale of US' continental resources since the 19th century?