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(04-01-2020, 06:05 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: You are like Fred Jr, the constant contrarian.  When I said "in the biggest moment, the championship game", I meant the National Championship Game, not the conference title.  I thought when I said "biggest moment" that might have clued you in on which championship game, but my fault, I should have been more specific. 

And you are saying he only jumped from 6th/7th rounder after the National Championship game to a fringe first rounder?  I don't believe that.  If you can show a source dated just before the National Championship Game that projected Queen as a 6th or 7th rounder, I would be amazed.

And yes, I did watch much Clemson  .  He had to run against OSU and LSU because his receivers were not wide open as they were all season against lesser competition.  Lawrence beat OSU to the tune of 107 yards on 16 rushes.  He ran 10 times for 49 yards against LSU, with one run of 17 yards.  Take that away and he had 32 yards on 9 carries.  That is pretty shut down considering what he did against a similar defense in Ohio State.  The fact that Lawrence also struggled against LSU further proves the ability of Queen, because he was dragging in coverage a great deal.  His coverage ratings, in fact, are far superior to that of Murray.

But it's ok if you don't see it.  33 NFL teams and their GMs do...I am hoping we are the ones that get him.  

Well, I don't have a bunch of old big boards archived.  I can go back through all our old board Draft Challenges, though.  I can tell you not one person picked him in November or December, when he was regularly available in the 7th.  Only one person picked him in January and that was Nati Bengals who took him in the 4th on 1/28, long after the CFP.  

Interestingly enough, in the November thread, you posted your December mock including this...

"3: R3P1

LB JACOB PHILLIPS
LSU

Big, fast, rangy...Ideal LB for this team.  Of course, I would want a veteran FA added to the LB corps as well.  "


If you thought Queen was this great prospect, why did you take Phillips over him?    We know from Nati's mock that you could have gotten Queen at least a round later at that point in time.  Would you take Phillips at 33 if Queen is gone?  You seem to believe he's the better prospect.


BTW, you can go back and see numerous drafts with guys like Denzel Mims and Zack Baun going in the 7th in November and December if you think it's impossible for Queen to get bumped that far.


Oh, ok, if you don't count his best run they kinda shut him down, but not really.  You realize he had a 67 yard run against OSU, right?  So by your criteria, if we take away his best run against OSU, he had 40 yards on 15 rushes, which is a lot worse than 32 yards on 9 carries.  I'm sure you also realize that in college stats, sacks count as rushes for the QB.  So, for example, in the LSU game Lawrence was sacked twice for -11 yards, so his actual runs account for 8 carries for 60 yards.


There are only 32 NFL team's, not 33.  You also have no clue what their big boards look like or what kinds of grades they have on the guy.  Quit with the hype man routine.