10-16-2015, 05:08 PM
(10-16-2015, 03:05 PM)djs7685 Wrote: Hey there, if you want to bash Gresham, at least get your shit straight.
2010 - 2 false start, 1 hold, 1 unnecessary roughness
2011 - 5 false start, 1 OPI
2012 - 3 false start, 6 hold
2013 - 4 false start, 5 hold, 1 unsportsmanlike, 1 declined OPI
2014 - 3 false start, 1 hold, 1 illegal motion
Doesn't look like multiple "illegal formations" in there to me. I'd wager that not many of Andy's INTs were because of Gresham's arm length as well.
I didn't know ultra seriousness was required. I'm a bit new here.
Illegal formation penalties are not assigned, necessarily, to the player at fault for the illegal formation. It is extremely hard for the TE to be called, even if he is at fault, unless that TE is lining up as something other than the TE. The illegal formation is always called on the receiver who covered, or failed to cover.
This doesn't mean, or prove, that Gresham was or wasn't at fault for such penalties. The only observation I have is that we haven't seen that flag since he left. A flag that's appeared to be a staple of the Bengals offense since he was drafted. A deductive reasoning thing. I could be misremembering.
"T Rex arms" implies a receiver faking effort to extend for a ball, but not so much. Not a wing span measurement reference. I'd actually blame his poor route running. There were two things he could do. A deep seem and the old take two steps and turn around to gain two yards on third and five. Anything else and the interception likelihood went way up. More deductive reasoning. Gresham gone, interceptions WAY down.
It is true that his bone head mistakes, at least the ones that appear on a stat sheet, went down last year. So did his production. Had his worst year as a pro.
