Duke Tobin

[Nicomo Cosca]

(04-29-2020, 01:31 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I can't even imagine why you would want a football discussion board that only ever thinks the Bengals will win the SB every year, that they're a well run team, every draft is an A+ draft, and all their players would be Pro Bowlers if only it weren't for the national news disrespect.

That sounds like a seriously boring place of delusion.

I'm here to discuss football and my favorite team, not to drink orange kool aid and have a circle jerk of ignoring reality. I'm sorry I put time and energy into trying to make my posts statistically informative rather than just throwing out random opinions based off nothing but perception. Next time I will just say "nope, they're bad, you're a doo doo head" and we can call it a day if that's what you'd prefer that over statistical backing of my opinion.

Thinking a player is just "good" or "solid" isn't a slight, man. It's just not feeding into the belief that every person who puts on a Bengals uniform is automatically twice as good as they really are, that some people seem to hold.

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I've never ever claimed that Gresham was an All-Pro elite HoF bound world beater, I have only ever claimed he didn't deserve the level of shit he got from some fans and was better than some remember. Try again.

Your argument about garbage time or weak opponents, etc, can literally be used against every single player in the league. All players pad their numbers against bad teams.

You just seem to go out of your way to paint some of these guys in a negative light, or downplay their accomplishments. For example, what Joe Mixon has done for two seasons in a row behind an absolutely terrible OL is nothing short of Herculean, but you put on your best not impressed face, and throw out a bunch of biased numbers that only tell part of the story. Jeremy Hill wasn’t running behind an OL whose best player was Trey Hopkins.

It’s all good though. I’ll try to consume less “orange kool-aid” going forward.