06-01-2020, 02:57 PM
(05-31-2020, 04:29 PM)Whatever Wrote: Is every charge of resisting arrest justified? No. Does the fact that every charge of resisting arrest isn't warranted mean that no charge of resisting arrest is warranted? No. Let's look at the statistics from SF that I posted earlier. African Americans accounted for 6% of the population, but 45% of resisting arrest charges in misdemeanor cases. In order for the resisting arrest rate for African Americans to be in line with their population, only 13% of those cases could be legitimate. The other 87% were just made up. Does anybody really believe that only one in ten cases of resisting arrest involving African American suspects is legitimate? I hope not. Even if half of those cases are made up BS, their rate of resisting arrest is still almost four times their population percentage.
Dude, people of all races get stopped for stuff they consider to be BS. When I was living in a primarily black neighborhood, I got stopped and my truck searched because I was doing 38 in a 35. I've seen firsthand a cop pull his weapon on a 40 something white woman who had his back turned to him in a Chipotle in the Ohio State campus area. I used to have a one bedroom apartment that was technically in Upper Arlington(wealthy section of Columbus) and I would get stopped in my old Crown Vic with the caved in door and peeling paint all the time. I got pulled over for doing 50 in a 45 one night a few months back. Cops are going to stop you if you look out of place or if you or your vehicle matches the description of a suspect. When I got pulled over in the black neighborhood, I had started renting space in a house with a coworker and he had told me there were drug houses in the area. The cops see a white male they don't know rolling through and they're going to stop me and check it out. That lady the cop pulled the gun on matched the description of a woman who was just involved in a bank robbery nearby. When I would get stopped in my old beater car I looked massively out of place driving by a bunch of houses with Mercedes and BMW's in the garage. When I got stopped a few months back, the cop went to my passenger side window and I could tell he had his hand on his holster. He asked for my license, which I already had out and asked if I knew why he stopped me. I told him because I was doing 50 in a 45. He handed back my license, never asked for my registration and let me off with a warning. It was pretty obvious he pulled me over because my car matched the description of a suspect vehicle and something was up because of just how hurried he acted through the whole thing.
Both of my parents and my Grandfather had talks with me about dealing with police when I got my learners permit. Whether you're black, white, Hispanic, Asian, whatever, if you get loud with a cop, you're headed for trouble. Many African Americans have a tendency to get loud and defiant in an attempt to assert dominance in confrontations. White people are generally more willing to show deference to authority figures, hence parents not being as worried about what happens when they get stopped.
I had SWAT put me face down on the pavement with a shotgun to the back of my skull, just because I fit the description (white guy with a goatee?) of someone selling drugs near my apartment building. I also had cops have everyone in my car "walk backwards to the sound of my voice" with guns pointed at our backs, because our car "fit a description". They had us drop to our knees and cuffed us to sort things out.
In either instance, I would've been dead had I even twitched the wrong way. No offense, but I think a lot of people talking race relations and cops have never sniffed a ghetto in their lives. No, I'm not saying all black people live in ghettos. What I'm saying is that a lot of these situations happen in bad neighborhoods, where what happens to cops on a daily basis would blow some of your upper middle-class minds.
We have to consider all angles and perspectives to come up with good solutions to the problems. I think one possible solution would be to have a time limit on how long a cop can serve in a problem city/area. Maybe cycle cops in and out of problem areas every 2 years? Maybe a psychological review every year? There's a lot of things we can consider.
(05-31-2020, 08:06 PM)BacknDaDey Wrote: I wonder how many in Cincy Jungle thinks "Taking a Knee" is problematic now with what is going on around the country?
There was a lot of posters in here who was against Colin Kaepernick for "Taking a Knee". It supposedly brought the wrong
kind of attention and distraction to the League and to a team. I bet you see a whole lot of players "Taking a Knee" this season
and rightfully so. All the owners and GM's were oh so wrong for black-balling him. Would teams now consider him as a worthy backup
quarterback? Should the Bengals offer an invite to camp?
Just some thoughts.
My feelings on Kaep's method of protest haven't changed, nor do I see why they should. I think most people didn't beef as much with his cause, so much as his methods. Intentionally disrespecting the country, causing division, wearing pig socks and Che shirts...all were divisive actions. He was being more Malcolm X (racist and bitter) than MLK (preaching unity and equality).
The best way to bring positive change is to come with fairness and a message of love/equality. Instead, Kaep intentionally made himself a lightning rod with actions that were clearly divisive and reeked of bitterness and resentment.
As much as some will try to dismiss the Anthem as "just a song" and the Flag as "just a piece of cloth", those are sentiments that are clearly not universal. Otherwise, Kaep wouldn't have picked that form of protest in the first place. He chose that form of protest because he knew it'd piss a lot of people off and get them talking.
(05-31-2020, 10:35 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I don’t particularly like the guy myself, but it’s definitely not his skill level keeping him out of the game. Like I said, he’s better than our backup, and I’d wager better than at least a handful of backups around the league.
Go back and watch some highlights of Tebow's 2011 season and tell me he wasn't better than many backups in the league. He was out of the league because the distraction caused by having him on the roster outweighed the value of what he brought to the table. Kaep was slightly better, but he'd also be an even bigger distraction.
These guys don't get blackballed for their causes, they get blackballed because the talent doesn't outweigh the distraction.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
