Bad Boys II

[Dill]

(06-01-2020, 02:58 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I'm assuming there's some Obama whataboutism. I don't recall taking issue with the word itself, just as you noted, the unequal application of it. Like I said, it's interesting that actual Neo Nazi's were called "good people" and the man who choked George Floyd wasn't called out, but Trump called out the protestors and called for them to be shot (doing so by quoting an anti civil rights figure who violently attacked young black men who protested in the 60's). Add to that fact, he told governors to listen to the armed white protestors who ignored social distancing and hung effigies of Democratic politicians. 

You and Nately heard Obama separating out "thugs" from protestors who had a legitimate complaint. The actions of these thugs were changing the public conversation FROM a legitimate problem of police violence TO another subject altogether, deflecting the focus needed to address a legitimate problem.  I.e., you heard a leader with a multifaceted grasp of the problem in Baltimore trying to put the public conversation back where it should be. A leader shaping the public conversation in a positive direction.

And you and Nately heard Trump's blanket application of the term to protestors in Minneapolis, with no underlying grasp of social causes and their relation to law, which are needed to construct effective policy. Rather, Trump's message was "when the looting starts, the shooting starts"; his policy direction, if you could call it that, was to "send in the Guard." All in a tweet which violated Twitter's policy against glorifying violence. 

Bfine heard Obama say "thug" and Trump say "thug." 

And then he heard you and Nately say it's not ok when Trump does it.