06-11-2020, 11:33 AM
(06-11-2020, 08:54 AM)GMDino Wrote: After catching up a bit it's good to see that we can agree that police need more and better training and that there is an admission that they are human and get frustrated and do bad things. Problem is it's less acceptable (to me) for them to do bad things because they hove much more protection as "part of their job".
The more power and responsibility your job entails the more accountability, of course. Where people err on this issue is lumping in reasonable uses of force, even lethal, with the bad. This muddies the waters and eventually creates an atmosphere in which all use of force is seen as wrong or excessive. Mike Brown is a perfect example. He is still continually brought up as a victim of state sanctioned murder even though the Obama DOJ did an exhaustive investigation and concluded that his shooting was entirely justified. In fact the whole "hands up, don't shoot" started with that and it was proven that it's based on a complete falsehood.
Quote:*I* can't be having a bad day and yell at the officer but *I* am to remain calm and "do as I'm told" in a stressful situation. Cross an imaginary line, don't show the officer enough "respect", "sound nervous", anything and I lose my freedom (even temporarily), have to pay fines, etc.
Officer has a long, bad day and accidentally kills someone and we're to collectively shrug our shoulders because they're human and just a few bad apples are staining the whole bunch?
Not sure that's the proper way to look at it from my perspective.
And you just provided an example of what I'm talking about above. LEO's get treated like shit on a regular basis. In 99.99% of those occasions they do not respond inappropriately. Quit perpetuating this kind of BS trope if you're actually serious about having this conversation.
Quote:But we're moving in the right direction. It's just going to take time and be painful so naturally people are resisting it.
Maybe we are, but I'm rather concerned there is going to be the classic over-correction. While I feel for the law abiding citizens there I hope Minneapolis does abolish the police in their city so the rest of the country can learn from the inevitable shitstorm that will result.
