Trump campaign demands CNN apologize for poll that shows Biden leading

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(06-13-2020, 11:21 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: The polls predicted that Clinton would win the national popular vote, and she did. On top of that, she won the national popular vote by a margin that was within the MoE the polls were predicting. The polls weren't wrong. People were taking that polling and applying it without taking into consideration the EC. There were some pollsters that were saying her losing the election and winning the popular vote was a possibility based on the polling.

Anyway, this is probably something like the twentieth time I've had to repeat all of this since the election.

Agree that the polls got the popular vote right.  They were off on the 'key' state totals though.  For instance 538 created a category of which states most likely could tip the election.  In their order it went...Florida, Pa, Mich, N Car, Va, Colorado, Ohio, Wisc, Minn, and Nevada.  On the day of the election, Hillary led, going in, in 9 of them, according to 538.   She only won 4 of them.  

Florida...predicted Hillary up .7,  trump won by 2
PA...predicted Hillary up 3.7,  Trump won by 1.
Mich...Predicted Hillary up 4.2, ended in a virtual tie which Trump won
North Carolina...predicted Hillary up by .7, Trump won by 4
Va..predicted Hillary up by 5.6, Hillary won by 5.
Colorado..predicted Hillary up by 4, Hillary won by 3.
Ohio...Predicted Trump by 1.9, Trump won by 9.
Wisconsin..predicted Hillary up by 5.3, Trump won by 1.
Minnesota..predicted Hillary up by 5.8, Hillary won by 1.
Nevada...predicted Hillary up by 1.2, Hillary won by 2.

538 was right.  These key states tipped the election.  But it seems they were maybe, what, about 4 or 5 points in range of error in average of these.