06-23-2020, 01:50 PM
(06-23-2020, 01:33 PM)Dill Wrote: "They have to get over that" doesn't seem like much of a program. And quite unlikely to work without some better understanding of why "pimping whores" should be attractive to, seriously what, maybe .01% of the total population of African Americans in the U.S.? Less?
Your framing of these social problems seems rather reductive, given the easy comparison is to "some white people back when" followed by a wag of the finger.
And here is a perfect example of what I was talking about.
Lots of black women have fought hard against the influence of "pimping" in black culture, but now we have some white guy saying it is no problem because we can't say anything bad about black people.
Educate yourself.
https://womensenews.org/2003/11/experts-hottest-hip-hop-glorifies-pimping/
According to the Recording Industry Association of America, hip hop–the macho subculture of rappers, graffiti artists, and break dancers that began on New York’s mean streets in the 70s–became the second-most popular music genre, with a 13.8 percent share of all music purchases in 2002. The music and its associated products are marketed to teens of all races, the fastest growing segment of thepopulation, according to the U.S. CensusBureau.
None of which pleases Rachel Lloyd, executive director and founder of Girls Educational and Mentoring Services in New York City, a four-year-old mentoring agency for girls and young women between 13 and 21 who are at risk of sexual exploitation.
“Just about every hip-hop song has a reference to pimping,” protests Lloyd. Given the unabashed and almost respectful treatment that hip hop gives to pimping and prostitution, Lloyd considers hip hop one of the threats–along with poverty and single-parent homes–facing the girls she mentors.
Hip hop’s critics say its style, language and mores are working to repackage and popularize the traditionally reviled profession of pimping. And the result is that more girls are getting pulled into the “life.” Bakari Kitwana, author of “The Hip Hop Generation: Young Blacks and the Crisis in African American Culture,” and the upcoming “Why White Kids Love Hip Hop,” believes that some artists, albeit not all, give their youthful fans the idea that sexual trafficking is cool.
“There are certain commercially viable hip-hop artists that sensationalize certain behaviors and then position it as a part of hip hop,” says Kitwana, a former executive editor of The Source, a leading hip hop magazine. “Because of their influence, it has become an issue.”
Dr. Tracy Sharpley-Whiting, chair of the Africana Studies Program at Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y., agrees. “The more hedonistic versus the more progressive forms of hip hop get promoted,” says Sharpley-Whiting.
what is becoming more commonplace, she says, is for girls not to think of pimping or prostitution as sexually exploitative. For them, she says, it’s an activity that hip hop has glamorized by an association with materialism and success in the form of flashy dress, money and fine cars.
A counselor at the school where the pimping incident occurred agrees. “They don’t have a good understanding of what it’s about,” the counselor says. “They don’t understand the danger of it.”
Pro-pimping cues are explicit in some of the most commercially successful hip hop. One of the most popular songs today is “P.I.M.P” by rapper 50 Cent, who, according to the New York City hip hop radio station, HOT 97, earned $18 million last year. Featured on his compact disc, “Get Rich or Die Tryin,” the song talks explicitly about sending women out to solicit sex for money:
“B ** ch hit that track, catch a date, come a’ paid the kid. Look baby this is simple. You f**ing with me, you f**ing with a P -I -M -P.”
The song’s video–which features rapper Snoop Dogg–has an unidentified member of the group “walking” two women on leashes. In August, during the MTV Music Video Awards, 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg performed “P.I.M.P” before a live audience. Girls on leashes were once again featured and the rappers were joined on stage by Bishop Don Magic Juan, a real life former pimp who also serves as advisor and touring mate to Snoop Dogg.
Pimping has even spawned a new energy drink, Pimp Juice, owned and marketed by rapper Nelly, which will hit stores nationwide this month. Then, there is “Lil’ Pimp,” an animated feature film to be distributed by Sony Pictures.
“Lil’ Pimp” tells the story of a 9-year-old white boy who abandons his suburban enclave after he’s introduced to the world of pimping by “master pimp” Fruit Juice and “working girl” Sweet Chiffon. The film which features the voices of Lil’ Kim, Ludacris and actors Bernie Mac and William Shatner, makes pimping seem fun and harmless.
Lloyd finds these attempts to legitimize pimping distressing.
“It’s out of control. Some girls who come into the agency like the song ‘P.I.M.P’,” she fumed. “These are girls who have been raped, on the street, and/or incarcerated. They are girls who know the life on one hand and yet are immune and accept the images. We’re trying to educate girls and help them get out (of the life) and we’re fighting against a media tide.”
