Bobby Hart under pressure

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(06-27-2020, 12:26 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: That's not true at all.  You don't even have to go back that far to find an example either, 60's generation vs. 80's.  You don't have to go back much farther than that to see a huge difference between the 20's and 40-50's.  Historically The Romans were light years more "progressive" than the culture that dominated Europe for close to a thousand years.  You're really basing this off the last thirty years.  I wouldn't be at all shocked if the current climate produces a very conservative generation within the next twenty years.

I don't know what exactly you're referring to in regards to the 60s and the 80s, but between those two time periods, marriage between white and black people was legalized, so I'm not sure why that would qualify as society becoming less progressive. 

Are you saying that people born in the 80s are less progressive than people born in the 60s? If so, I'd have to hear your reasoning for that.

As far as the 20s and the 40s and 50s go, I think the World Wars did make patriotism more prominent which promoted nationalistic thinking a bit, but when you look at the society as a whole, it still became more progressive. Child Labor Laws were passed in the 20s and 30s and the ACLU was formed. Women's right to vote occurred in the 20s as well. I think we can both agree that a woman's place in the world has evolved with each generation, initially viewed as merely a home maker and then slowly gaining more and more autonomy as the decades went on.

In regards to Europe vs the Romans, fair enough. But I think now we're comparing apples to oranges. I should have specified that any individual society has not significantly taken a step back in its own insular history. Each society progresses at a different rate. For example, Saudi Arabia is just now allowing women to drive. They are way behind most of the civilized world, but they are still moving in a progressive direction.

There will certainly be bumps in the road, like the one we're going through right now, often caused by external wars and conflicts, but on the whole, I think we would both agree that each generation gained more progressive freedoms and rights than the last, when viewed from a macro level, right?