Bobby Hart under pressure

[Mike M (the other one)]

(06-28-2020, 03:42 AM)samhain Wrote: So what?  How is learning about a thing that happened teaching anyone to be anything?  I've been taught about comparative religion, various political movements, and lifestyles that aren't mine.  I played flag football at a Baptist church when I was Catholic, and continued to be Catholic.  None of them made me anything other than what I am.  

I hate to break it to people, but if you're kid is gay, it aint because he/she read a book about LGBTQ history.  It's because, wait for it: they are gay and always have been.  

You either are or you aren't regardless of what you consume in terms of information.  All withholding said information does is repress and shame, creating more issues.  

One of my best friends is as right wing as they come.  Wears MAGA hats and goes to the local megachurch.  He brags about loving his 50 guns all the same.  We go to Fat Tuesday dinner with his family every year here at a local cajun place.  One year, he brought his teenage son.  Guess what?  He's flaming, outspokenly, in-your-face, no doubt gay.  He did not learn that from his dad or anything he was taught in school.  It's just who he is and who he's always been, and no amount of conditioning would have changed that.

Why explain it to me? I didn't say I was against it. Just pointing out how people might try to tie it to the message Bobby Hart put out there. There is also several states that have "no pro *****" laws. While that might be stupid. There is still a ways to go to get those laws changed.

I don't buy the "born that way" propganda. So far science can't prove people were born that way. 

If it was so, then how can 1 identical twin be gay and the other strait? They share the same genetic code, so if one is, the other should be as well.

I believe everyone has limits to how much stress/trauma they can handle. And when that limit is reached, a new behavior pattern emerges. At birth, we are all blank slates, its our experiences that shape us. 

And you can't tell me that scientists can't figure it out, cause they can tell who is a higher risk for many different things (diseases, disorders etc) from a person's genetic code, so if there was a distinct pattern, they would've found it by now. 

Now before you jump all over me. I'm not saying its a bad thing or that they are bad people or broken in any way. Just how I see it, just like you see it as "born that way". And I dont put anyone down because of their lifestyle choices. I respect everyone, but their lifestyle isn't for me.