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Bobby Hart under pressure
(06-28-2020, 09:20 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Why explain it to me? I didn't say I was against it. Just pointing out how people might try to tie it to the message Bobby Hart put out there. There is also several states that have "no pro *****" laws. While that might be stupid. There is still a ways to go to get those laws changed.

I don't buy the "born that way" propganda. So far science can't prove people were born that way. 

If it was so, then how can 1 identical twin be gay and the other strait? They share the same genetic code, so if one is, the other should be as well.

I believe everyone has limits to how much stress/trauma they can handle. And when that limit is reached, a new behavior pattern emerges. At birth, we are all blank slates, its our experiences that shape us. 

And you can't tell me that scientists can't figure it out, cause they can tell who is a higher risk for many different things (diseases, disorders etc) from a person's genetic code, so if there was a distinct pattern, they would've found it by now. 

Now before you jump all over me. I'm not saying its a bad thing or that they are bad people or broken in any way. Just how I see it, just like you see it as "born that way". And I dont put anyone down because of their lifestyle choices. I respect everyone, but their lifestyle isn't for me. 


Science doesn’t always “prove” things, but science has shown that sexual orientation is likely the result of various genetic factors as well as environmental factors. Like most things, we’re a combination of genetic predisposition and different stressors and experiences and can cause those genetic predispositions to manifest a certain way.

Identical twins also do not necessarily have their DNA code expressed the same way due to epigenetic factors

http://gap.med.miami.edu/learn-about-genetics/have-questions-about-genetics/are-identical-twins-100-genetically-identical

“While the two babies share the same DNA code, there is more to our genetics than just that. During development in the womb and after birth, our surroundings, exposures, and nutrition influence how our genes are expressed and how our bodies and minds develop. For example, two identical twins may have the same genes for height, but if one twin does not receive the same amount of nutrients while in the womb, it may be shorter than the other twin. We know also, that there are some changes to our genes that can happen during the embryonic period or during development. While this rarely happens, it makes it so that one identical twin may have a genetic condition, while the other twin does not. Our genetic code is a very large part of our genetic makeup, but there are other factors, genetic and environmental, that make us unique!”
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Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-24-2020, 09:49 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-24-2020, 10:18 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-24-2020, 10:27 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 12:22 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 12:47 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - hollodero - 06-25-2020, 12:53 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 01:03 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - hollodero - 06-25-2020, 01:31 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Lucidus - 06-25-2020, 02:17 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - samhain - 06-25-2020, 05:42 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - GMDino - 06-25-2020, 10:01 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - BmorePat87 - 06-24-2020, 11:00 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-24-2020, 11:14 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 08:16 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - BmorePat87 - 06-25-2020, 01:01 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-25-2020, 08:00 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - BmorePat87 - 06-26-2020, 07:53 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 08:01 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - BmorePat87 - 06-25-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 01:14 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 01:32 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - samhain - 06-25-2020, 05:35 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 01:03 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-25-2020, 01:04 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 01:08 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-25-2020, 01:13 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-25-2020, 01:21 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-25-2020, 01:31 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 01:37 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-25-2020, 01:39 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-27-2020, 12:40 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-27-2020, 12:56 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-27-2020, 07:43 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - jason - 06-25-2020, 05:45 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 06:31 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 06:56 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - GMDino - 06-25-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 07:06 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 08:12 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 08:16 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 08:36 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 08:58 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 09:40 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 09:44 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-26-2020, 08:00 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-26-2020, 11:09 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - BmorePat87 - 06-27-2020, 12:41 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-26-2020, 11:01 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-27-2020, 12:52 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - samhain - 06-28-2020, 03:42 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-28-2020, 11:45 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-28-2020, 02:37 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-29-2020, 11:12 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-29-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-29-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - jason - 06-29-2020, 06:56 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-29-2020, 07:04 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-29-2020, 07:07 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-29-2020, 07:54 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-28-2020, 12:30 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - GMDino - 06-28-2020, 01:13 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Lucidus - 06-28-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-28-2020, 02:48 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Lucidus - 06-28-2020, 03:12 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-29-2020, 11:17 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - BmorePat87 - 06-28-2020, 08:21 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-26-2020, 11:09 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-26-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-26-2020, 09:05 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-25-2020, 07:10 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 07:49 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - bfine32 - 06-25-2020, 08:08 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - samhain - 06-26-2020, 05:34 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - samhain - 06-25-2020, 04:06 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - CJD - 06-25-2020, 01:37 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - HarleyDog - 06-25-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Nately120 - 06-25-2020, 02:09 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-25-2020, 02:17 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - BmorePat87 - 06-25-2020, 04:59 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - samhain - 06-26-2020, 05:55 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - GMDino - 06-26-2020, 08:52 AM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - Yojimbo - 06-29-2020, 02:32 PM
RE: Bobby Hart under pressure - fredtoast - 06-29-2020, 05:18 PM

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