Bad Boys II

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(06-30-2020, 06:57 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: This is reductio ad absurdium at work, fellas. There is a looooooooooong history of people in both parties being down right ruthless with the children of public officials. It's happened at all levels of our government. Them being exposed to a protest outside their residence is tame in comparison to what has happened all throughout our history. All Dino seems to be saying, here, is that it should be expected if you run for office. If you don't want it to happen, don't run, because it's going to happen if you are in office. It's an unfortunate truth, but it is a truth. It's not just because of the divisiveness of the times we live in, it has literally been going on for at least the entirety of the 20th century, if not the history of our nation (I can just think of instances dating to the late-19th/early-20th off the top of my head).

(06-30-2020, 07:00 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: This is just me, but if a protest is on public property and is not a threat to public safety, then I don't care. Protest away. I believe this is the viewpoint of judicial precedent on the matter, as well. But honestly, it's 6 AM, I've been up for an hour, and I haven't made my coffee yet.

(06-30-2020, 08:40 AM)GMDino Wrote: Thanks Matt.

Yeah, no one WANTS it to happen but it does.

This board had some very upset people that even the word "Baron" was used without it being an attack on the President's son.  As I said in my post I feel bad for the families.  It's one reason I would never run for office.  My wife and kids should not have to suffer because some people disagree with ME.

I wish it didn't happen but it does.  And Matt's 100% right that is both sides.

And I'll add this goes for all kinds of public figures from movie stars to television personalities.  They see their families get dragged through the machine with them whether they like it or not.

This is reductio ad bothsideum at work, fellas.

I don't give a shit if both sides do it, or how long they've done it, neither should. Unless a minor puts themselves into politics/public forum by their own choice, they should be off limits and your home should be a place of safety. Period. Regardless of your job.

Bels, I am sure you'd be fine with protests in front of homes until it goes in front of your home and your neighbors start to hate you, your HOA (or apartment building) kicks you out, and you find yourself being forced to move every time the protesters find your new address or until you cave to whatever the protests demands are (until a different group of protesters from the opposite side then protest THAT decision).

I'm also sure that both of you will be just as casual and accepting of the shitty nature of people protesting outside homes if sometime in the future there's some news story with photos of a couple hundred angry white people in MAGA hats (or the douchiest of assholes in polo shirts holding tiki torches) start surrounding the private homes of minority politicians. "As long as it's public property, I don't care." - Definitely not Bels at that time.

A private home is not a place for protest, and children should be left out of politics unless they themselves join in first. The end.