Bad Boys II

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(06-30-2020, 02:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So could you please just stop making stuff up.  It makes it difficulut to have a serious conversation about an issue when yuou refuse to even address what people actually say.

Ok, Fred.

(06-30-2020, 02:30 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: You missed the important part of the post: that this is something that has been happening for a long time and, unfortunately, has to be expected if you enter into politics or put yourself in the public eye.

I would agree with your sentiment. The point I was making was that Dino was (correctly) pointing out that it is something you have to expect when you enter into the public eye.

Agreed, but the Constitution allows for peaceable assembly and so if they are on public property and not a threat to public safety, then they have the right to be there.

I support the right to protest in front of people's homes if they are on public property and not a threat to public safety because that is a civil liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. You have a problem with it? Take it up with the framers.

Aren't we in an era where "it's unfortunate, but it's been happening for a long time" is not an acceptable reason? I thought the whole purpose of these protests going on was to end shitty things happening to you being "something you have to expect". 

Constitutionally you are correct, but morally? Just because you're legally allowed to do something doesn't mean you *should* do something... 

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crimes

Quote:Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties.

...but the majority of our nation has agreed that though it's Constitutionally legal, it's not good and it is shunned and actively discouraged, people get fired for it.


Just saying that my belief is that we should leave people's private houses alone. Not because we Constitutionally have to, but because we should. 

(06-30-2020, 06:58 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: From a strictly constitutional standpoint? Yes. 

See above, kind of got a two-fer response there.