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(07-05-2020, 11:40 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is the problem I see going forward.

It is impossible to attack an opinion without attacking it, and some people just can't seperate their opinions from themselves.  And the best way to attack an idea is to make it look as stupid as possible.  

If I tell some one he is wrong he takes it as a personal insult.  If I call his opinion stupid then he feels like he is being called stupid.  And if more people agree with me then he feels "under attack".

I have no problem avoiding personal attacks or insults.  But some people here are not going to be satisfied with that.  Instead they will want people suspended just for attacking opinions or ideas in any sarcastic or aggressive manner.

Rhetoric can be strong and aggressive without including any personal attacks.  The problem is that some people can't seperate their beliefs from themselves.  Since our opinions (beliefs) create our identity I understand why it can be difficult.  And religious beliefs can be especially problematic.  But anyone who can't achieve that seperation should just stay away from public open debate.

I think you've hit on and demonstrated one of the root problems in PnR. Folks are much more worried about "proving" someone wrong  that providing an answer of their own. It's why I've always said the motto of PnR should be:

"I don't know what's right, but I know you're wrong"