07-18-2020, 07:35 PM
I don't get the chokehold thing. I understand that cops have killed detainees with them, but in most of those cases those particular cops were doing a shitty job of applying the technique.
Long ago when I was a young Sam, I was into martial arts for about 5 years, mostly jiu-jitsu. I wasn't particularly great at it, but I learned enough for it to be useful to me if need be. I rolled a lot in practices, sometimes 6 days a week and have been choked probably hundreds of times. I've applied chokehold to dozens of sparring partners. Never once did anyone suffer any kind of real injury. People passed out on rare occasions, but this was brief and not much of a big deal.
On the other hand, I've been hit in the head and face with everything from fists to beer bottles. I've been knocked the F out and cut badly. I've had my head rammed into tables and brick walls, and slammed on the ground. I've had more than one concussion. I'd take a chokehold over any of these things all day long.
Police need to get better at applying chokeholds, or at least some of them apparently. They are useful and relatively safe if the person applying knows what they are doing and is calm enough to keep it together while doing it.
I really don't want to see people getting hit in the head with batons or shot because cops can't use chokeholds. Both are IMO much more potentially lethal (obviously in one case). I feel like the answer is to teach officers more and maintain the training to confirm that they are capable of using the technique without killing someone.
Long ago when I was a young Sam, I was into martial arts for about 5 years, mostly jiu-jitsu. I wasn't particularly great at it, but I learned enough for it to be useful to me if need be. I rolled a lot in practices, sometimes 6 days a week and have been choked probably hundreds of times. I've applied chokehold to dozens of sparring partners. Never once did anyone suffer any kind of real injury. People passed out on rare occasions, but this was brief and not much of a big deal.
On the other hand, I've been hit in the head and face with everything from fists to beer bottles. I've been knocked the F out and cut badly. I've had my head rammed into tables and brick walls, and slammed on the ground. I've had more than one concussion. I'd take a chokehold over any of these things all day long.
Police need to get better at applying chokeholds, or at least some of them apparently. They are useful and relatively safe if the person applying knows what they are doing and is calm enough to keep it together while doing it.
I really don't want to see people getting hit in the head with batons or shot because cops can't use chokeholds. Both are IMO much more potentially lethal (obviously in one case). I feel like the answer is to teach officers more and maintain the training to confirm that they are capable of using the technique without killing someone.
