07-18-2020, 09:05 PM
(07-18-2020, 08:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Outstanding post.
The "bar choke holds" is just folks looking at the effects instead of the cause.
100%. All you have to do is watch the George Floyd or Eric Garner killings to see that what those officers were doing was just flat-out dumb and dangerous, probably due to a lack of training/panic in the moment. This shouldn't disqualify the use of correct/effective chokeholds as a means of subduing someone who isn't cooperating/is a threat. If you detain somebody with a chokehold and know how to do it, you can much more easily prevent them from hurting themselves or others than you can by swinging a stick/fist, or firing non-lethal projectiles.
If you hit somebody hard enough to subdue them, they are going down hard. They could land funny and break something, or even hit their head in a way that causes death. I remember this happening a long time ago in Cincinnati outside of the Clifton B-Dubs to a prominent high school football player. He clocked a dude that hit his sister, the dude fell, hit the curb, and died.
IMO it doesn't favor any party involved to eliminate chokeholds.