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Defund the police
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(07-18-2020, 11:33 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Seems a movement to educate on how to use the choke hold correctly. could be more beneficial than eliminating it. I get the knee flex reaction, , but let's look at things with an unbiased eye. 

I can't claim the argument as my own, as I basically adopted it from Jocko Willink, an ex-SEAL team commander and regular on Fox and multiple podcasts.  I've seen others mention it elsewhere.  He's hardly a leftist or anti-cop.  He more or less thinks cops need more combat training on a repetitive basis to enable them to make better decisions under duress.  He wants to apply combat concepts to the idea of policing.  You can't let your emotions get the better of you in any potentially violent situation, as it endangers both you and whoever else is involved.  You obviously are more aquainted with that in real life than I am.  The goal is not to allow things to escalate, and if they do, it shouldn't be because of something the authorities did.

I'm all in favor of BLM itself, as I see it as a genuine, organic movement with goals outside of just politics for the sake of politics.  They weren't looking for a cause, because the cause itself became needed.  They believe that they are fighting for their lives, and in many cases they just may be.  They aren't fakes.  I also don't portend to tell black people how they should or shouldn't obtain what they want.  I've just come to the conclusion since all of this started that the change needed has more to do with police training than defunding or banning things.
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Defund the police - GMDino - 07-18-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 11:52 AM
RE: Defund the police - treee - 07-18-2020, 12:29 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 12:52 PM
RE: Defund the police - Dill - 07-18-2020, 01:30 PM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 07-18-2020, 09:31 PM
RE: Defund the police - hollodero - 07-18-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: Defund the police - treee - 07-18-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: Defund the police - hollodero - 07-18-2020, 01:59 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 02:39 PM
RE: Defund the police - hollodero - 07-18-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-18-2020, 02:53 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 03:03 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-18-2020, 04:08 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 04:17 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-18-2020, 04:25 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 05:33 PM
RE: Defund the police - SunsetBengal - 07-18-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-18-2020, 05:10 PM
RE: Defund the police - SunsetBengal - 07-18-2020, 05:36 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 05:37 PM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 07-18-2020, 09:25 PM
RE: Defund the police - SunsetBengal - 07-18-2020, 09:47 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-19-2020, 12:06 AM
RE: Defund the police - SunsetBengal - 07-19-2020, 12:17 AM
RE: Defund the police - samhain - 07-19-2020, 12:26 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-19-2020, 09:11 AM
RE: Defund the police - SunsetBengal - 07-19-2020, 09:56 AM
RE: Defund the police - SunsetBengal - 07-18-2020, 12:58 PM
RE: Defund the police - treee - 07-18-2020, 01:01 PM
RE: Defund the police - SunsetBengal - 07-18-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-18-2020, 02:00 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-18-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Defund the police - samhain - 07-18-2020, 07:35 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 08:41 PM
RE: Defund the police - samhain - 07-18-2020, 09:05 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-18-2020, 11:33 PM
RE: Defund the police - samhain - 07-19-2020, 12:42 AM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 07-19-2020, 12:43 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-19-2020, 10:15 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-19-2020, 11:03 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-19-2020, 11:16 AM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-19-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-19-2020, 10:25 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-19-2020, 10:43 AM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 07-19-2020, 10:54 AM
RE: Defund the police - CJD - 07-19-2020, 01:59 PM
RE: Defund the police - Dill - 07-19-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: Defund the police - CJD - 07-19-2020, 02:46 PM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 07-19-2020, 03:04 PM
RE: Defund the police - CJD - 07-19-2020, 05:01 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-19-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Defund the police - NATI BENGALS - 07-20-2020, 12:01 AM
RE: Defund the police - NATI BENGALS - 07-20-2020, 02:56 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-20-2020, 09:06 AM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-20-2020, 10:27 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-20-2020, 08:59 AM
RE: Defund the police - Nately120 - 07-20-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-20-2020, 10:25 AM
RE: Defund the police - Nately120 - 07-20-2020, 10:31 AM
RE: Defund the police - Nately120 - 07-20-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-20-2020, 04:50 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-20-2020, 05:02 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-20-2020, 05:19 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-20-2020, 05:37 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-20-2020, 08:07 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-22-2020, 10:57 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-22-2020, 08:23 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-22-2020, 11:17 AM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 07-22-2020, 11:34 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-22-2020, 11:36 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-22-2020, 08:25 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-22-2020, 08:35 PM
RE: Defund the police - Vas Deferens - 07-22-2020, 11:07 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-22-2020, 11:20 PM
RE: Defund the police - Vas Deferens - 07-22-2020, 11:37 PM
RE: Defund the police - Vas Deferens - 07-23-2020, 01:34 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-23-2020, 01:13 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-23-2020, 09:05 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-23-2020, 01:24 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-23-2020, 07:11 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-24-2020, 11:15 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-24-2020, 02:18 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-25-2020, 09:05 AM
RE: Defund the police - Dill - 07-27-2020, 04:59 AM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 07-25-2020, 10:12 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-23-2020, 09:07 AM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-23-2020, 12:11 PM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 07-23-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 07-24-2020, 08:51 AM
RE: Defund the police - Nately120 - 07-23-2020, 12:50 PM
RE: Defund the police - Nately120 - 07-24-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 11-12-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: Defund the police - BigPapaKain - 11-13-2020, 09:13 AM
RE: Defund the police - fredtoast - 11-13-2020, 11:29 AM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 11-13-2020, 11:54 AM
RE: Defund the police - hollodero - 11-13-2020, 12:02 PM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 11-13-2020, 12:09 PM
RE: Defund the police - BmorePat87 - 11-13-2020, 01:08 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 11-13-2020, 12:09 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 11-13-2020, 12:46 PM
RE: Defund the police - bfine32 - 11-13-2020, 12:56 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 11-13-2020, 02:06 PM
RE: Defund the police - hollodero - 11-13-2020, 02:52 PM
RE: Defund the police - GMDino - 11-13-2020, 02:56 PM
RE: Defund the police - hollodero - 11-13-2020, 03:02 PM
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