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What is the biggest change?
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(08-31-2020, 05:47 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Sorry man, but it's not happening. Might as well accept it now. It was possible before, but the injuries the last couple years sealed it.

He'll simply never be able to statistically rise to/above the level of his peers of the era...

16 Years
L Fitzgerald: 1,378 catches/17,083 yards (12.4 AVG)/120 TDs ... Pro Bowl x11, All-Pro x1

14 Years
A Johnson: 1,062 catches/14,185 yards (13.4 AVG)/70 TDs ... Pro Bowl x7, All-Pro x2
R Wayne: 1,070 catches/14,343 yards (13.4 AVG)/82 TDs ... Pro Bowl x6, All-Pro x1
A Boldin: 1,076 catches/13,779 yards (12.8 AVG)/82 TDs ... Pro Bowl x3, All-Pro x0

13 Years
B Marshall: 970 catches/12,351 yards (12.7 AVG)/83 TDs ... Pro Bowl x6, All-Pro x1

12 Years
D Jackson: 598 catches/10,420 yards (17.4 AVG)/55 TDs ... Pro Bowl x3, All-Pro x0

11 Years
R White: 808 catches/10,863 yards (13.4 AVG)/63 TDs ... Pro Bowl x4, All-Pro x1

10 Years
A Brown: 841 catches/11,263 yards (13.4 AVG)/75 TDs ... Pro Bowl x7, All-Pro x4

9 Years
AJ Green: 602 catches/8,907 yards (14.8 AVG)/63 TDs  ... Pro Bowl x7, All-Pro x0
J Jones: 797 catches/12,125 yards (15.2 AVG)/57 TDs ... Pro Bowl x7, All-Pro x2
C Johnson: 731 catches/11,619 yards (15.9 AVG)/83 TDs ... Pro Bowl x6, All-Pro x3

8 Years
TY Hilton: 552 catches/8,589 yards (15.6 AVG)/45 TDs ... Pro Bowl x4, All-Pro x0

7 Years
D Hopkins: 632 catches/8,602 yards (13.6 AVG)/54 TDs ... Pro Bowl x4, All-Pro x3

6 Years
O Beckham: 464 catches/6,511 yards (14.0 AVG)/48 TDs ... Pro Bowl x3, All-Pro x0
M Evans: 462 catches/7,260 yards (15.7 AVG)/48 TDs ... Pro Bowl x3, All-Pro x0

4 Yards
M Thomas: 470 catches/5,512 yards (11.7 AVG)/32 TDs ... Pro Bowl x3, All-Pro x2
T Hill: 281 catches/4,115 yards (14.6 AVG)/32 TDs ... Pro Bowl x4, All-Pro x2



...this post turned out to be way more research/work than I originally anticipated. The point being that when it comes time to compare him to the other great WRs of his time, AJ Green will statistically come up lacking. It was already a slight issue before the injuries, but losing 29 games over the last 4 years pretty much put a nail in that coffin. Age 32-36 he would have to put up at least 1k yards each year (which is more than he's averaged so far in his first 9 years) to even keep himself in the conversation and I don't even know if that'll be enough the way that Hopkins/Evans/Thomas are racking up stats behind him and the fact that he'll always be compared to Julio Jones since they were two picks apart yet Julio has over 3k yards more in the same time already.


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ALL THAT SAID... I still full agree with your response. AJ Green starting rather than Damien Willis is about as huge of an upgrade as you possibly can get. That's like Whit instead of Ogbuehi.

As Wes said, nice work TLL. Agree the injuries over the last few years sealed AJ out of the HOF.

He still cannot stay healthy either so there was no way I could vote for him.

(08-31-2020, 06:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Thanks. 

Won't get any flame from me. I've always stated that AJ has had a great career so far, but Chad still remains the best Bengals WR of all time. Dude deserves to be in the HoF.

AJ has always seemed to be a Top 5-10 WR in the league, but never had a time where he was THE best in the NFL. It's why he's got plenty of Pro Bowls, but no All-Pros to his name. Chad meanwhile had a three year stretch there where he was legitimately the best WR in football (which is why '04-'06 Chad was All-Pro including leading the NFL in yards in '06).

The most impressive part of Chad during that stretch was the defenses he was playing against when he did it...

2004:
Steelers 1st Overall Defense
Ravens 6th Overall Defense

2005:
Steelers 4th Overall Defense
Ravens 5th Overall Defense

2006: 
Ravens 1st Overall Defense
Steelers 9th Overall Defense

That's a full 25% of his games each year right there. Defenses with Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, (old) Deion Sanders in an era where WRs weren't really protected.

I like AJ better but you are correct, what Chad did in that time was more impressive. Just wish he was more clutch in the big 
situations, my one ***** about Chad besides him being a bit of a diva. Still, best toe tap and route runner we ever had.
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What is the biggest change? - SHRacerX - 08-31-2020, 03:19 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - rfaulk34 - 08-31-2020, 10:59 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - SHRacerX - 08-31-2020, 05:59 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-31-2020, 06:38 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - Cicero - 08-31-2020, 11:06 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - jason - 08-31-2020, 11:09 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - Cicero - 08-31-2020, 11:35 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - jason - 08-31-2020, 11:42 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - SHRacerX - 09-02-2020, 12:48 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - Cicero - 09-02-2020, 06:30 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - SHRacerX - 09-03-2020, 08:56 AM
RE: What is the biggest change? - Cicero - 09-03-2020, 03:28 PM
RE: What is the biggest change? - J24 - 09-03-2020, 02:26 AM

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