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The Few, the Proud, the White
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(09-04-2020, 07:03 PM)Dill Wrote: Reference to what "we all know" is just arguing without an argument.  Same for appealing to "what anyone knows." You are not addressing the points I made about a pattern of maldistribution at all. (And the NBA does have a diversity problem at the ownership level--red herring in this case?)

But not at the player level?  Never wonder why many people don't take this kind of allegation seriously.


Quote:Looks like we both may "speculate" all we like, one using the evidence of testimony and data, the other appealing to what "anyone knows." The latter leads to the idlest speculation about where I have worked and under what conditions. Far afield from any sort of evidence or reasoning which could directly apply to the question of diversity in the Marines.

It's already been demonstrably proven that the percentage of black Marine Generals is above the percentage of the of black people in the officer corps.  Hence no diversity problem,


Quote:I don't speculate as to what institutional experiences render one unable/unwilling to address a point about differing patterns of racial representation at different levels in institutional hierarchies, a point which renders moot any claim that there is "nothing suspect" in this or that individual case; I don't write as if "speculation" is what the other guy does, or as if all speculation were equal.

Next time omit this paragraph, it's a lot of words saying nothing of substance.


Quote:ONE PERSON in my source said "racism" was not the reason for the maldistribution of Hispanics in top military leadership; must be true then? Yet that person does see a "systemic" problem.

So, are they a valid source or not?  

Quote:A more productive route at this point might be to consider whether is such a thing as "systemic racism," how it is defined, and whether it applies to cases like the US military. I can start things down the road by saying that if there is systemic racism at work in military rank selection, it doesn't mean there avowed racists making conscious choices to exclude Blacks or Hispanics.  

An even more productive route would be to actual prove things instead of making allegations with nothing but supposition for proof.  
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The Few, the Proud, the White - GMDino - 09-01-2020, 09:22 AM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - GMDino - 09-02-2020, 08:50 AM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - GMDino - 09-02-2020, 11:04 AM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-02-2020, 01:40 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-02-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-03-2020, 03:35 AM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-04-2020, 07:03 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-04-2020, 07:29 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-04-2020, 08:09 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-04-2020, 09:38 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-05-2020, 02:09 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-05-2020, 04:25 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-04-2020, 07:49 PM
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RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-05-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: The Few, the Proud, the White - Dill - 09-02-2020, 01:49 PM
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