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(10-22-2015, 12:53 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I can't speak for what others mean when they say it, but the way I think of it is pretty simple.

Andy Dalton is playing at an elite level right now.  We need to look no further than the numbers to agree on this.  But, simply put, I don't think it's sustainable.  While someone like Aaron Rodgers can sustain an elite level of play, over not only single seasons, but a run of multiple years, I'm not at all sure Andy can.  And, at the very least, he needs to do it for a longer stretch than 6 games to earn the title of an elite QB.  That takes time and proven, sustained results.

Think of it this way, a guy like Jay Bruce can go on absolute tear.  Say a .350 average and 8 homers in a single month.  That's playing at elite level.  That's slugging the shit out of the ball.  I'm going to need to see more of that, over several years, to consider him a modern day Mickey Mantle.

IMO, the words great, elite, the phrase "the next *insert HOF player here* seem to be tossed around far too often.  Acknowledging the fact that Andy is playing great, while not ready to call him great, seems entirely fair and like a perfectly rational thing to say to me.  Hopefully after the explanation you agree.  I never intended to slight Andy's play in the least.
looking at your post,, have a thought is A.Brown from Steelers elite now ? or is he average to above average and what makes him elite is Big Ben ?

Here is A. Brown stats last three games

in last three games he has 11 receptions for around 110 yards and zero TD's.    If he is an elite WR should he not have better stats than that regardless of the QB ?
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I've Got Something to Say - Wes Mantooth - 10-21-2015, 12:51 AM
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