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The National Review defends Bernie on rape essay
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(05-31-2015, 01:18 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: So I actually read the essay. I'd recommend all do so before commenting any further.

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I can't post images on my phone, sorry.


It appears the point of the essay is a criticism of traditional gender roles In which the man expects the female to be submissive and the woman expects to have to serve or depend on the man. I would say after reading it all that the brief mention of sexual fantasies isn't suppose to be taken as Bernie suggesting men and women actually get off on this.

(05-31-2015, 03:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: While you're trying to suggest you are reading it differently than I am, when you look at your post and your explanation, you really aren't. 

Crude, attention getting intro aside, his essay is a criticism of gender roles. The submissive female and domineering male roles create confusions in a modern world. We're expected to want one thing, but the reality is that it doesn't  lead us to be fully satisfied. The whole ending is the revelation that the man and woman were just perpetuating what they thought was a desire, creating a conflict and ending their relationship.

the part where you're wrong is in the last sentence where you say he doesn't lead us to believe we don't get off on these. The whole conflict is out of place if he isn't criticizing these gender roles for making us believe that these desires are the only ones that exist.


that said, tons of people do like BDSM. That's why 50 Shades of Grey sold 100 million copies. It's not about abuse, though, but playing with power dynamics that often contradict typical gender roles. 

To answer your question: because the socialist doesn't need a 40 year old piece of social satire being misread and hurting his underdog campaign. Easier to just ditch it than explain it. 

4 pages of responses. I have heard: "These fantasies are common", "these fantasies are OK", "these fantasies are pointing to consensual sex", but you are the first to have cracked the code (here and Nationwide) that asserts Bernie doesn't even think folks have these fantasies.
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RE: The National Review defends Bernie on rape essay - bfine32 - 05-31-2015, 04:08 PM

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