09-16-2020, 11:44 AM
(09-16-2020, 10:24 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Too many since these surges are predictable and preventable.
The “at risk” population is anyone who breaths air. The increased risk population is protected by mitigation strategies you want to get rid of and if you get rid of them then you aren’t protecting the people you claim we should protect.
Again, I am willing to change my stance based upon data and evidence. Do you have any data that supports your opinion over leading medical experts who have opinions informed by formal eduction, training, and experience in epidemiology, infectious disease, and public health?
It's just my opinion and as I said, it's not popular. With all due respect, "too many" is not a number. Again, with all due respect, the at risk population is not "anyone who breathes air".
I will try to explain my thought process on this. Please don't hammer me as I am just being honest and already stated numerous times that I realize my opinion is unpopular.
Population is 325 million. Death toll at 200,000. 200,000 / 325,000,000 = .00061% death
Nursing home deaths = 68,000+ and account for at least 40% of deaths. Not just elderly, but elderly in nursing homes, so not out and about in the general population.
200,000 - 68,000 = 132,000 So general population of 132,000 / 325,000,000 = .00040% death
That is not even factoring in elderly not in nursing homes, elderly with comorbitities and any age group but with comorbitities.
With all that factored in, that number starts to get incredibly small and the number of healthy people that actually die from Covid is miniscule. This is why I made the statement that the at risk group is not "anyone who breathes air".
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html#:~:text=More%20Than%2040%25%20of%20U.S.%20Coronavirus%20Deaths%20Are%20Linked%20to%20Nursing%20Homes,-By%20The%20New&text=At%20least%2068%2C000%20residents%20and,a%20New%20York%20Times%20database.
Cases. 6.61 million / 325,000,000 = .018% infected
https://www.google.com/search?ei=SRdiX6mMEciHytMP9-mU0A0&q=covid+casses+usa&oq=covid+casses+usa&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjoFCAAQkQI6BwgAELEDEEM6BQgAELEDOgQIABBDOggIABCxAxCDAToCCABQ0RZY1itghy5oAHAAeACAAUuIAbYIkgECMTeYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjp1Mf-5-3rAhXIg3IEHfc0BdoQ4dUDCA0&uact=5
Based on those numbers, imo, it is insane to lock down, crash our economy, keep kids out of school, ruin livelihoods, etc. And I have not even touched on all the ancillary problems and deaths that the lock downs have caused vs the Covid deaths themselves. You can further break down that aspect quite a bit as well as the Covid numbers.
My opinion is that we should be fully open, no masks and targeted protection of the at risk groups.
