09-22-2020, 12:22 PM
Some of us were talking education reform in the TV viewership thread. Let's continue it here.
My last post said:
The data is mixed on results [of private v public] for a number of reasons. There some metrics that suggest slightly better performance, but what metrics should be used? The most common is standardize testing, but educators know that's not nearly as useful as non-educators make it. College graduation rates? College isn't for everyone.
Even then, there's not a lot to suggest that private schools are inherently better.
Do you take into account socioeconomic status? Do you take into account parent education level? These are all higher for private schools and play a huge role in a child's learning.
Private schools offer smaller class sizes because they enroll far less students. They do not have to honor or create IEP's for students with disabilities either. They can pick and chose who attends.
These are all factors that change if you accept vouchers. In states that do not require private schools to follow educational civil rights laws to get vouchers, private schools can make more money and leave the most struggling students behind. In states that would make it a stipulation, those best private schools would just not accept the vouchers.
If you have an exodus from public to private, private needs to hire more teachers and public would lay off. Unfortunately, private pays about 30% less than public and offers fewer benefits. You teach private because you do not needs to deal with as much red tape and have smaller classrooms. If that changes, people are either going to get paid less or private schools will need to pay more, raising the cost of tuition.
End of the day, kids in poverty won't do better in an overcrowded private school, and the childhood poverty rate is what needs to be addressed.
My last post said:
The data is mixed on results [of private v public] for a number of reasons. There some metrics that suggest slightly better performance, but what metrics should be used? The most common is standardize testing, but educators know that's not nearly as useful as non-educators make it. College graduation rates? College isn't for everyone.
Even then, there's not a lot to suggest that private schools are inherently better.
Do you take into account socioeconomic status? Do you take into account parent education level? These are all higher for private schools and play a huge role in a child's learning.
Private schools offer smaller class sizes because they enroll far less students. They do not have to honor or create IEP's for students with disabilities either. They can pick and chose who attends.
These are all factors that change if you accept vouchers. In states that do not require private schools to follow educational civil rights laws to get vouchers, private schools can make more money and leave the most struggling students behind. In states that would make it a stipulation, those best private schools would just not accept the vouchers.
If you have an exodus from public to private, private needs to hire more teachers and public would lay off. Unfortunately, private pays about 30% less than public and offers fewer benefits. You teach private because you do not needs to deal with as much red tape and have smaller classrooms. If that changes, people are either going to get paid less or private schools will need to pay more, raising the cost of tuition.
End of the day, kids in poverty won't do better in an overcrowded private school, and the childhood poverty rate is what needs to be addressed.
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